news.yahoo.com — When flight attendants urged the man, who was carrying a religious book, to take his seat, he ignored them, Brafman said. Two friends, who were seated, tried to tell the attendants that the man couldn't stop until after he'd finished his prayers in about 2 minutes, he said. -Freedom of religion has it's limits. This is beyond that limit.
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Closed AccountApr 18, 2008
So this man of the Jewish faith causes a big stink by insisting that he be able to pray on an airplane in such a manner as to delay the departure of the flight. An airplane is not a public place. It is privately owned property and purchasing a ticket obligates you to follow the rules of the airline as well as all FAA regulations. If you do something to interfere with a flight you have committed a federal crime and are subject to prosecution. He's lucky that they showed such extreme tolerance of his behavior and simply put him on a different flight. He should have said his prayers in private before boarding the plane or silently from his seat.. Will he now scream anti-Semitism? Will the ADL start screaming anti-Semitism? I'm a Christian and If I were on a plane and a Christian started causing problem because he wanted to leave his seat and pray thus delaying the departure of the plane I'd want his butt thrown off the plane just like this Jewish fellow.
morpheus69Apr 20, 2008
Yeah, even though I don't believe in God, I should still follow the commandments, including the one that says I shall worship no god other than the one true God... oh, wait...
morpheus69Apr 20, 2008
Their justification is that if he ignored the instructions of the flight crew once, there's no telling what he might have done while in flight. He was considered "uncooperative" and therefore a risk to the safety of the flight.
morpheus69Apr 20, 2008
How do they know there is no danger to anyone? How do they know what other things this guy's religion will require him to do during the flight? Maybe he'll stand up again during turbulence, or during landing. Or, what if he stands up and prays for two minutes blocking the aisle during an emergency evacuation? If he's willing to ignore the flight crew once, he may ignore them again during the flight. That's why they had him removed.
morpheus69Apr 20, 2008
Yeah, Muslims have it easy in the US, compared to Jews and Christians who are always being persecuted.
morpheus69Apr 20, 2008
Anyone who believes in an all-powerful God who for some reason requires all of us lowly human beings to tell him how great he is at specific times of the day lacks both intelligence and leads a sad life.
lessisbestApr 21, 2008
This post is why wikipedia exists: BEFORE you post you should try to research a bit. Orthodox Jews are very legalistic and they DO NOT consider Jesus Christ as a source of spiritual authority (some will even refuse to say his name). His religion tells him that he has to pray for a certain amount of time, and whether some other religion considers him a hypocrite is not of importance to him. The thing I find funny about this incident is that the airline kicked the guy out of the plane because he was holding up the plane from leaving. But if you read the article, it states the individual had concluded his religious activities, and afterwards the security guard was called and he was kicked out. The act of not allowing him to fly was more as a punishment action versus a preventive.
downneckApr 29, 2008
you win 4 internets