papers.ssrn.com — "The incidence of rape in the United States has declined 85% in the past 25 years while access to pornography has become freely available to teenagers and adults." This paper argues that there is a correlation between the two.
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mrgreen4242Aug 25, 2006
"I think it's probably a stretch to say that the availability of porn is the cause of rape reduction."I wouldn't say it's a stretch, but I would agree it's not definitely the cause. HOWEVER, this does disprove the notion that increased access to porn causes an increase of rape (a statement that many anti-porn groups make).This study doesn't prove anything, but it does DISPROVE some things... which is usually the case with most good science.
davodavoAug 25, 2006
Otto, that's what I meant. Either way it's still a fallacy to assume that one caused the other.
shadarAug 25, 2006
Just because the current belief is that rape is not a sex act is wrong? At least in a percentage of the cases rape is most definately about sex... the question is if it's a larger percentage than was currently believed... this study seems to support that it is.
gd007Aug 25, 2006
yes, this shows we need more porn - much more.
threemagicAug 25, 2006
It's reasonable to assume that roosters crow WHEN the sun comes up because when the sun comes up they crow. We've proven that after the first person observed it now we know it to be true.... the data was overwhelming.In this case.. you can't call the article a fallacy. It's NOT a fallacy but a well thought out observation. AT THE SAME TIME: we can't call it FACT either.Does that help your stupid christian beliefs?
sithmatAug 25, 2006
@vhold: "So I take it then you read just the blurb and not the article."Read near the conclusion, the author himself states: "Correlations aside, could access to pornography actually reduce the incidence of rape as a matter of causation?" thereby jumping from correlation to causation in this grade 5 book report of a project. Although he does mention he understands the difference between correlation and causation, he completely SENSATIONALIZES the entire article with a title like "Rape Up, Porn Down" as though he offers concrete proof that one causes the other. He also hypes his "findings" by writing "My theory is that the sharp rise in access to pornography accounts for the decline in rape" without providing any definite answer to that theory, making this study more an opinion piece than anything.The whole point of my rant is to draw attention to the fact that this is NOT anything near a slam-dunk conclusion on rape and porn. Both the person who submitted this article and the author himself are guilty of sensationalizing the issue because they know it would attract attention.Anyway, I regret my time spent arguing over the obvious worthlessness of some idiot's attempt at an op-ed piece.
daffyduckAug 25, 2006
Anyone interested in this topic, please read this study based on porn in Japan and Europe. It's pretty eye-opening if you ask me.<a class="user" href="http://www.hawaii.edu/PCSS/online_artcls/pornography/prngrphy_rape_jp.html">http://www.hawaii.edu/PCSS/online_artcls/pornography/prngrphy_rape_jp.html</a>
bonkedAug 26, 2006
@isellmacsYou claim that pot is a "gateway drug" - that's odd because using your logic, I could easily prove that it is actually H2O that is the true gateway drug. You are buying into the circular reasoning that many people who choose to use harder drugs in life start with pot and that pot in turn led to harder drug use.I would put forth to you that I can prove that 100% of hard drug users on a regular basis have used H2O to quench a thirst. That shows that if we could prevent people from using water, we would prevent harder drug use, because they would not be going through the "gateway."While I know you are obviously seeing the flaws in my arguement already, perhaps you could step back for a moment and see the very same flaws are found in yours.
rtfxAug 26, 2006
A possibility I haven't seen brought up here is that it could be the same correlation that the Freakonomics people point to as a likely cause for a drop in most crime - easily available abortion. The same unborn potential criminals(who would have been guaranteed poor socioeconomic status) might, to some extent, be interested in rape.The way we would test that hypothesis, which I'm not about to do, is to correlate the level of all violent crime in a population with the level of rape.
Closed AccountSep 7, 2006
<a class="user" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sharon_Lopatka">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sharon_Lopatka</a> <a class="user" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armin_Meiwes">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armin_Meiwes</a>
murdatsOct 7, 2006
pr0n origanally refered to ascii pron, however noobs came along and saw pr0n looks like porn, thus pr0n is a call way of writing pornthis (as it goes with a dynamic language) now means that pr0n = porn and sometimes (very rarely) refers to specifically ascii pornlike gay, still means happy and whatnot, but not very often, 99.9% of the time it means homosexual or stupid (not these 2 seperate meanings do not imply that homosexuals are studid, people who take offence at people saying things like 'myspace is gay' are stupid, in that context gay has nothing at all, AT ALL, even by some very long extension anything to do with homosexuals, like spell can mean spelling a word, or can means cool partical effected magicks, NOTHING AT ALL RELATED except the word, sorry for the rant, just need to be 110% clear to ward of morons misinteripting anything I say)
murdatsOct 7, 2006
this question could be very easily answeredask every rapist if they are involved in ITIT people have the most porn of anyone, thus is porn causes rape, IT people must go out on hunts twice a night looking for something more then porn (must have a lot of stamina) if 80%+ people are IT then porn causes rape (or being in IT)if very few people who have massive collections of porn rape people then porn != rape
polymorphsMar 4, 2008
and maybe we should share more of it at http:www.18plustrades.com