littlegreenfootballs.com— Popular Mechanics responds to the evil conspiracy theories of Rosie O’Donnell and the 9/11 Truther lunatics: Popular Mechanics Responds.
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Yes... everything the Bush administration does is a lie, so no matter what they do we can assume they are lying, this proves that they are liars and that everything they do is a lie, so no matter what they do we can assume they are lying, this proves that they are liars and everything the do is a lie...(repeat forever, if facts interfere, ignore them)
Right. Popular Mechanics. They're the ones who came up with the path of MOST resistance "Pancake Theory", right? Riiiiiiight.If not for the controlled demolition of those three buildings, they would have toppled over following the path of least resistance and done humongous damage to the structures in lower Manhattan.
To be fair, I think Barbara Walters should fire Elizabeth and hire Ann Coulter, have her sit next to Rosie..Ann would have Rosie in a straight jacket in no time!LOL
As an engineer who has studied structural mechanics, popular mechanics has been spot on with their analysis. For the folks out there are really skeptical about Popular Mechanics' analysis regarding the effect of temperature on the strength of steel, I encourage those people to read through any undergraduate book on the strength of materials. There are two things that affect the strain (the way an elastic material is bending): stress and temperature. The beams that support the WTC were already under stress, and the increase in temperature was enough to cause the material to yield. Something similar that occurs often in turbomachinery is called 'Creep':<a class="user" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Creep_%28deformation%29">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Creep_%28deformation%29</a>This is science, not politics.
be it resolved: the word "Truth" is one of the most important in the english language. it deserves as much reverence as the words "Freedom", "Liberty", "Beauty", "Love", etc.further be it resovled: legions are delusionally paranoid, poorly informed and educated, gullible and credulous individuals have taken to referring to themselves as "Truthers". This is an affront not just to the english language, but to those who actually care about TRUTH, as opposed to mutual masturbation over BELIEF.therefore, be it resolved: i will henceforth refer to the aforementioned tinfoil-hat sporting rubes as "Troofers", as a word that sounds like Truth is far more descriptive than their usurpation of the real thing.
Really?.... 7 of them are still alive?... you must be referring to the film STILL DERANGED... errr... LOOSE CHANGE. I love their claims... yet I've yet to see any of them come forward. Where are they? Why aren't they all over television defending themselves? No... don't tell me... they are afraid that US Covert Ops in black helicopters will kill them.
Back in the day, if someone suggested that the Nazis torched the Reichstag building as a means of causing fear and panic among the population, and to blame the communists so they could easily eliminate them and help themselves rise to power; or the events that lead to the invasions of Poland and Czechoslovakia were staged for the Nazi's benefit; they would have been called "nuts" at best, and we won't get into the worst. Yet, today we know it all to be true. Now, many years later, with much more sophisticated technologies of all types (including propaganda abilities) than they had back in the 1930s, is it possible that 911, the Iraq war, the saber rattling with Iran etc. are modern day equivalents of the events of the 1930s? Something to consider.Throughout history, governments have been staging or facilitating attacks against themselves for the purpose of creating public support for being drawn into conflict. The United States has a long history of such behavior, nearly every major war it has fought had been brought about through the use of this tactic, including World War II and the Vietnam war.Operation AJAXIn 1953, the Central Intelligence Agency working in tandem with MI6 overthrew the democratically elected leader of Iran, Dr. Mohammad Mossadeq. Mossadeq had been educated in the West, was pro-America, and had driven Communist forces out of the North of his Country shortly after being elected in 1951. Mossadeq then nationalized the oil fields, and denied British Petroleum a monopoly.The CIA's own history department at CIA.GOV details how U.S. and British intelligence agents carried out terror attacks, and subsequently blamed them on Mossadeq.In the late 1990's, large sections of operation AJAX were declassified. The field commander of operation AJAX was none other than the grandson of President Theodore Roosevelt, Kermit Roosevelt. Before his death in 2000, Roosevelt went public to the media, bragging about his patriotism in carrying out terror attacks in Iran and blaming it on the government.The provocations included propaganda, demonstrations, bribery, agents of influence and false flag operations. They bombed the home of a prominent religious leader, and blamed it on Mossadeq. They attacked mosques, machine gunned crowds, and then handed out thousands of handbills claiming Mossadeq had done it. The handbills read "Up With Mossadeq, Up With Communism, Down With Allah." Dr. Mohammad Mossadeq was incarcerated for the duration of his life, and fared better than many of his ministers, who were executed just days after the successful coup for crimes that the MI6 and CIA had committed. The CIA then formed the dreaded Iranian secret Police, SAVAK, and a 25 year rein of terror and torture then commenced.The operation was seen by western intelligence agencies as a huge success. The CIA then successfully used the exact same technique in scores of countries to overthrow elected governments and dictators alike.<a class="user" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_ajax">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_ajax</a>The Gulf of Tonkin Incident?In the summer of 1964, President Lyndon Baines Johnson needed a pretext to commit the American people to the already expanding covert war in Southeast Asia. In November of 2001 the LBJ Presidential Library and museum released tapes of phone conversations with the president and then defense secretary Robert Macnemera, where they openly discussed plans to use the staged Gulf of Tonkin incident as a pretext to expand the war.??Then in late 2005 the National Security Agency declassified it?s own official history of the Gulf of Tonkin, and admitted that intelligence agency officers have deliberately skewed the intelligence and claimed that Vietnamese patrol boats have attacked US destroyers on August 4, 1964, when in reality they had done nothing, even while being fired upon by U.S. forces. Congress then authorized the Gulf of Tonkin resolution. The Tonkin Lie paved the way for over 58 thousand American deaths, and over a million and a half dead Vietnamese.?Operation Gladio?Operation Gladio was an umbrella name for literally hundreds of bombings carried out by Western Intelligence agencies and NATO in Italy, Western Europe, the Middle East, Latin America and Asia. From 1947 to 1981, Italian Presidents have gone public admitting Operation Gladio targeted innocent civilians and was to be blamed on leftists and communists. On November, 22, 1990, The European Parliament had a resolution condemning the activities of Operation Gladio. The former Italian Intelligence Chief has come clean concerning Gladio?s actions as well. Many other countries have declassified documents concerning Gladio.??It is part of the public record that [the United States government] and other western governments targeted trains, busses, schools.. several times operatives zeroed in on school busses, knowing that images of dead children would get the population angry and ready to relinquish their liberties. A particularly bloody bombing at the central station of Bania, Italy in the morning of August 2, 1980, which killed 85 people and wounded more than 200, caused some officials to break their silence and begin to expose just a small part of this wicked operation.?Cubana Flight 455?On October 6, 1976, two time bombs made of C-4 planted on a Douglas DC-8 aircraft exploded, killing all 73 people on board, in the most deadly act of airline terrorism in the western hemisphere until September 11, 2001. The plane was carrying Olympic athletes from three countries, including gold medal winners from Cuba.??Declassified FBI and CIA documents show the convicted bombers of the flight had been given U.S. visas just days before the attack, and they were in the employ of the U.S. Government.?<a class="user" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cubana_Flight_455">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cubana_Flight_455</a>Operation NorthwoodsA well known example of past government sponsored terror is ?Operation Northwoods,? an official government plan from 1962 which was apparently carried out during the 1967 attack of the U.S.S Liberty. The documents have been declassified in 1997 by the John F. Kennedy Assassination Records Review Board, and they are are in the National Archives.Wikipedia page on the subject: ?Operation Northwoods, which had the written approval of the Chairman and every member of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, called for innocent people to be shot on American streets; for boats carrying refugees fleeing Cuba to be sunk on the high seas; for a wave of violent terrorism to be launched in Washington, D.C., Miami, and elsewhere. People would be framed for bombings they did not commit; planes would be hijacked. Using phony evidence, all of it would be blamed on Castro, thus giving Lemnitzer and his cabal the excuse, as well as the public and international backing, they needed to launch their war.?<a class="user" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Northwoods">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Northwoods</a>USS Liberty incidentNew evidence and testimony from former officers in the US and Israeli armed forces and intelligence services has revealed that President Lyndon Johnson conspired with Israel to deliberately attack the US Naval Intelligence-gathering ship USS Liberty on June 8, 1967, in which 34 Americans were killed and 171 wounded.Some key former high-ranking officials who were in office at the time in the United States government, including the Secretary of State, the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, the Director of the NSA, and the senior legal counsel to the U.S. Navy Court of Inquiry into the incident.Claim that the attack was premeditated and deliberate. They note that the Liberty was more than twice as large as the El Quseir, and was clearly designated with Latin rather than Arabic letters and numbers. Proponents include the surviving Liberty crewmen, [1] and some former U.S. government officials, including then-CIA director Richard Helms and then-Secretary of State Dean Rusk as well as Admiral Thomas Hinman Moorer, former Chief of Naval Operations and Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff.<a class="user" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Liberty_incident">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Liberty_incident</a><a class="user" href="http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3319663041501647311&q=dead+in+the+w">http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3319663041501647311&q=dead+in+the+w</a> water+libertyFDRIn October 2000 during the presidency of Bill Clinton who signed into law, with the support of a bipartisan Congress, the National Defense Authorization Act that, among other provisions, reversed the findings of nine previous Pearl Harbor investigations and found that both Kimmel and Short were denied the crucial intelligence.There was foreknowledge of the attack by President Roosevelt and U.S. military officials. One of the issues is whether Admiral Kimmel and General Short were denied crucial U.S. military intelligence that tracked Japanese forces advancing on Hawaii.FDR?s military and State Department leaders agreed that a victorious Nazi Germany would threaten the national security of the United States. They felt that Americans needed a call to action. Roosevelt believed that his countrymen would rally only to oppose an overt act of war on the United States. The decision he made, in concert with his advisors, was to provoke Japan through a series of actions into an overt act: the Pearl Harbor attack.<a class="user" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Day_of_Deceit">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Day_of_Deceit</a>
29victorMar 31, 2007
Yes... everything the Bush administration does is a lie, so no matter what they do we can assume they are lying, this proves that they are liars and that everything they do is a lie, so no matter what they do we can assume they are lying, this proves that they are liars and everything the do is a lie...(repeat forever, if facts interfere, ignore them)
strictlyMar 31, 2007
Right. Popular Mechanics. They're the ones who came up with the path of MOST resistance "Pancake Theory", right? Riiiiiiight.If not for the controlled demolition of those three buildings, they would have toppled over following the path of least resistance and done humongous damage to the structures in lower Manhattan.
nijennaMar 31, 2007
To be fair, I think Barbara Walters should fire Elizabeth and hire Ann Coulter, have her sit next to Rosie..Ann would have Rosie in a straight jacket in no time!LOL
manwich18Mar 31, 2007
As an engineer who has studied structural mechanics, popular mechanics has been spot on with their analysis. For the folks out there are really skeptical about Popular Mechanics' analysis regarding the effect of temperature on the strength of steel, I encourage those people to read through any undergraduate book on the strength of materials. There are two things that affect the strain (the way an elastic material is bending): stress and temperature. The beams that support the WTC were already under stress, and the increase in temperature was enough to cause the material to yield. Something similar that occurs often in turbomachinery is called 'Creep':<a class="user" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Creep_%28deformation%29">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Creep_%28deformation%29</a>This is science, not politics.
spiritbraveMar 31, 2007
Hey goforbroke,If you are truly fed up with the moonbat crap, check this out. Get involved. It's gonna be one HOT july! Just go to homepage, click on your state, then drop them an e-mail.<a class="user" href="http://www.operationamericarising.com/index.html">http://www.operationamericarising.com/index.html</a>
anastropheMar 31, 2007
be it resolved: the word "Truth" is one of the most important in the english language. it deserves as much reverence as the words "Freedom", "Liberty", "Beauty", "Love", etc.further be it resovled: legions are delusionally paranoid, poorly informed and educated, gullible and credulous individuals have taken to referring to themselves as "Truthers". This is an affront not just to the english language, but to those who actually care about TRUTH, as opposed to mutual masturbation over BELIEF.therefore, be it resolved: i will henceforth refer to the aforementioned tinfoil-hat sporting rubes as "Troofers", as a word that sounds like Truth is far more descriptive than their usurpation of the real thing.
Closed AccountMar 31, 2007
Really?.... 7 of them are still alive?... you must be referring to the film STILL DERANGED... errr... LOOSE CHANGE. I love their claims... yet I've yet to see any of them come forward. Where are they? Why aren't they all over television defending themselves? No... don't tell me... they are afraid that US Covert Ops in black helicopters will kill them.
honestjoeApr 4, 2007
Back in the day, if someone suggested that the Nazis torched the Reichstag building as a means of causing fear and panic among the population, and to blame the communists so they could easily eliminate them and help themselves rise to power; or the events that lead to the invasions of Poland and Czechoslovakia were staged for the Nazi's benefit; they would have been called "nuts" at best, and we won't get into the worst. Yet, today we know it all to be true. Now, many years later, with much more sophisticated technologies of all types (including propaganda abilities) than they had back in the 1930s, is it possible that 911, the Iraq war, the saber rattling with Iran etc. are modern day equivalents of the events of the 1930s? Something to consider.Throughout history, governments have been staging or facilitating attacks against themselves for the purpose of creating public support for being drawn into conflict. The United States has a long history of such behavior, nearly every major war it has fought had been brought about through the use of this tactic, including World War II and the Vietnam war.Operation AJAXIn 1953, the Central Intelligence Agency working in tandem with MI6 overthrew the democratically elected leader of Iran, Dr. Mohammad Mossadeq. Mossadeq had been educated in the West, was pro-America, and had driven Communist forces out of the North of his Country shortly after being elected in 1951. Mossadeq then nationalized the oil fields, and denied British Petroleum a monopoly.The CIA's own history department at CIA.GOV details how U.S. and British intelligence agents carried out terror attacks, and subsequently blamed them on Mossadeq.In the late 1990's, large sections of operation AJAX were declassified. The field commander of operation AJAX was none other than the grandson of President Theodore Roosevelt, Kermit Roosevelt. Before his death in 2000, Roosevelt went public to the media, bragging about his patriotism in carrying out terror attacks in Iran and blaming it on the government.The provocations included propaganda, demonstrations, bribery, agents of influence and false flag operations. They bombed the home of a prominent religious leader, and blamed it on Mossadeq. They attacked mosques, machine gunned crowds, and then handed out thousands of handbills claiming Mossadeq had done it. The handbills read "Up With Mossadeq, Up With Communism, Down With Allah." Dr. Mohammad Mossadeq was incarcerated for the duration of his life, and fared better than many of his ministers, who were executed just days after the successful coup for crimes that the MI6 and CIA had committed. The CIA then formed the dreaded Iranian secret Police, SAVAK, and a 25 year rein of terror and torture then commenced.The operation was seen by western intelligence agencies as a huge success. The CIA then successfully used the exact same technique in scores of countries to overthrow elected governments and dictators alike.<a class="user" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_ajax">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_ajax</a>The Gulf of Tonkin Incident?In the summer of 1964, President Lyndon Baines Johnson needed a pretext to commit the American people to the already expanding covert war in Southeast Asia. In November of 2001 the LBJ Presidential Library and museum released tapes of phone conversations with the president and then defense secretary Robert Macnemera, where they openly discussed plans to use the staged Gulf of Tonkin incident as a pretext to expand the war.??Then in late 2005 the National Security Agency declassified it?s own official history of the Gulf of Tonkin, and admitted that intelligence agency officers have deliberately skewed the intelligence and claimed that Vietnamese patrol boats have attacked US destroyers on August 4, 1964, when in reality they had done nothing, even while being fired upon by U.S. forces. Congress then authorized the Gulf of Tonkin resolution. The Tonkin Lie paved the way for over 58 thousand American deaths, and over a million and a half dead Vietnamese.?Operation Gladio?Operation Gladio was an umbrella name for literally hundreds of bombings carried out by Western Intelligence agencies and NATO in Italy, Western Europe, the Middle East, Latin America and Asia. From 1947 to 1981, Italian Presidents have gone public admitting Operation Gladio targeted innocent civilians and was to be blamed on leftists and communists. On November, 22, 1990, The European Parliament had a resolution condemning the activities of Operation Gladio. The former Italian Intelligence Chief has come clean concerning Gladio?s actions as well. Many other countries have declassified documents concerning Gladio.??It is part of the public record that [the United States government] and other western governments targeted trains, busses, schools.. several times operatives zeroed in on school busses, knowing that images of dead children would get the population angry and ready to relinquish their liberties. A particularly bloody bombing at the central station of Bania, Italy in the morning of August 2, 1980, which killed 85 people and wounded more than 200, caused some officials to break their silence and begin to expose just a small part of this wicked operation.?Cubana Flight 455?On October 6, 1976, two time bombs made of C-4 planted on a Douglas DC-8 aircraft exploded, killing all 73 people on board, in the most deadly act of airline terrorism in the western hemisphere until September 11, 2001. The plane was carrying Olympic athletes from three countries, including gold medal winners from Cuba.??Declassified FBI and CIA documents show the convicted bombers of the flight had been given U.S. visas just days before the attack, and they were in the employ of the U.S. Government.?<a class="user" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cubana_Flight_455">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cubana_Flight_455</a>Operation NorthwoodsA well known example of past government sponsored terror is ?Operation Northwoods,? an official government plan from 1962 which was apparently carried out during the 1967 attack of the U.S.S Liberty. The documents have been declassified in 1997 by the John F. Kennedy Assassination Records Review Board, and they are are in the National Archives.Wikipedia page on the subject: ?Operation Northwoods, which had the written approval of the Chairman and every member of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, called for innocent people to be shot on American streets; for boats carrying refugees fleeing Cuba to be sunk on the high seas; for a wave of violent terrorism to be launched in Washington, D.C., Miami, and elsewhere. People would be framed for bombings they did not commit; planes would be hijacked. Using phony evidence, all of it would be blamed on Castro, thus giving Lemnitzer and his cabal the excuse, as well as the public and international backing, they needed to launch their war.?<a class="user" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Northwoods">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Northwoods</a>USS Liberty incidentNew evidence and testimony from former officers in the US and Israeli armed forces and intelligence services has revealed that President Lyndon Johnson conspired with Israel to deliberately attack the US Naval Intelligence-gathering ship USS Liberty on June 8, 1967, in which 34 Americans were killed and 171 wounded.Some key former high-ranking officials who were in office at the time in the United States government, including the Secretary of State, the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, the Director of the NSA, and the senior legal counsel to the U.S. Navy Court of Inquiry into the incident.Claim that the attack was premeditated and deliberate. They note that the Liberty was more than twice as large as the El Quseir, and was clearly designated with Latin rather than Arabic letters and numbers. Proponents include the surviving Liberty crewmen, [1] and some former U.S. government officials, including then-CIA director Richard Helms and then-Secretary of State Dean Rusk as well as Admiral Thomas Hinman Moorer, former Chief of Naval Operations and Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff.<a class="user" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Liberty_incident">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Liberty_incident</a><a class="user" href="http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3319663041501647311&q=dead+in+the+w">http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3319663041501647311&q=dead+in+the+w</a> water+libertyFDRIn October 2000 during the presidency of Bill Clinton who signed into law, with the support of a bipartisan Congress, the National Defense Authorization Act that, among other provisions, reversed the findings of nine previous Pearl Harbor investigations and found that both Kimmel and Short were denied the crucial intelligence.There was foreknowledge of the attack by President Roosevelt and U.S. military officials. One of the issues is whether Admiral Kimmel and General Short were denied crucial U.S. military intelligence that tracked Japanese forces advancing on Hawaii.FDR?s military and State Department leaders agreed that a victorious Nazi Germany would threaten the national security of the United States. They felt that Americans needed a call to action. Roosevelt believed that his countrymen would rally only to oppose an overt act of war on the United States. The decision he made, in concert with his advisors, was to provoke Japan through a series of actions into an overt act: the Pearl Harbor attack.<a class="user" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Day_of_Deceit">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Day_of_Deceit</a>