arstechnica.com — Two of The Pirate Bay defendants took the stand today in Sweden, saying that they don't read contracts they sign, don't write speeches they read, and don't really have a "top-down" organization. But prosecutors say that it's all a sophisticated money-making operation.
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borninda818Feb 20, 2009
iritegood: you said absolutely nothing...using many words. Well done.When I said web 2.0 I was refering to user generated content and how it complicates things for the laws we had in place before its existance. If this is not, more or less, the definition of web 2.0 please correct me.Crudomatic:I already acknowledged about everything you said in my former posts. Yes, I know it's just a search engine. Lets say I create a search engine for the specific purpose of spreading kiddie porn and I watch as users post all their child porn for others to download. Is my site not guilty of spreading child porn, even though we host none of it?As far as the fact that ad revenue is s**t. This may be true, but it is still a form of revenue that is acquired at the expense of whoever owns the copyright. You can give me whatever bulls**t you want that it really isnt dropping sales and whatnot, but everyone damn well knows that it's hurting the music companies. The movie studios, not-so-much. You can pretend to be robin hood acting against greedy executives but that isnt an argument at all. This becomes obvious when you look at software companies. They take a HUGE hit because of the mass amount of downloading, especially the smaller companies. They put their time and money to make a product and have the right to put a price on it. This is the beauty of capitalism, profit creates progress. If you don't want it, there are free alternatives.
simonlarsenFeb 20, 2009
Most bands earn s**t of touring.You have to be quite known to even get PAID from concerts, most of the time you only get a couple of beers, and maybe some of your expenses paid.If you tried actually talking to some real bands you would know this, but you're to biased from listening to a non-stop stream of stupidity coming from people like The Pirate Bay who, as the article clearly states are close to complete retards.Can't wait for the downmodding. :)
upnortherikFeb 20, 2009
volley, are you an expert in Swedish law? I'm not, I was just wondering about your credibility.PS for a grammar nazi you really need work on your English.
scriptcoderFeb 20, 2009
Um no. I'm pointing out how hypocritical and morally wrong it is to make money of distributing other people's work. Don't pretend to be Robin Hood when you're just running another business.
lifehedgeFeb 20, 2009
Volleytennis: I probably have few more credits than you at least and yes, linking is the core of the case. TPB have not provided any material, legal or illegal, themselves. They only provide links.
Closed AccountFeb 20, 2009
Yeah...because you need to be a legal expert to know that "I didn't read the contract htat I signed" is not a valid defense. Give me a f**king break. If you honestlhy think that that is a legal defense in ANY country, how on earth are you still breathing oxygen? Someone as clueless of you should have been weeded out of hte gene pool long ago.In ALL countries, contracts are binding, regardless of whether you read it before signing it or not. Otherwise, there is no point of a contract.
leviathan84Feb 21, 2009
The apologists who advocate Piracy, constantly make statements that are intellectually bankrupt.Im yet to hear a reasonable statement to why my music, and my colleagues music, should be worthless.Young artists spend tens of thousands of dollars recording and making music, generally just for one record cycle. The public want great sounding music, but don't want to pay for it.Who is so cheap, they cant afford to buy songs on itunes?