antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov— This stunning group of galaxies is far, far away - about 450 million light-years from planet Earth - cataloged as galaxy cluster Abell S0740.
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It is actually surprising that stargazers haven't picked out a pattern of stars that resembles a human face, or other human-influenced picture/icon/shape.Oh wait, never mind, they're called constellations.
This is what gets me....Say it was the Big Bang, and everything started as a ball the size of a golf ball and exploded into what is now our universe. Where did the golf ball come from? And what is the universe expanding into? Empty space? It makes my brain hurt.
@joedoo:That brief clip of the most annoying thing on the internet represents the entire incompetence and ignorance of mankind. It's there to provide contrast. To remind people that life isn't about YouTube and the last episode of American Idol.
In this case, age is a limiting factor. If the expansion of the universe is limited by the speed of light, (the universe is composed of matter), then the size of the universe cannot be larger then distance light travels in the amount of time that has transpired since the BigBang.Look at it this way: Take a Hubble image of a place in the universe that is 78 Billion light years away from earth; this means it has taken 78 Billion years for the light to travel from that place to the Hubble's camera. If the universe is 13 Billion years old then there has NOT been enough time for the light to travel 78 Billion Light years.So the question how can light have traveled farther then is possible for the amount of time that has elapsed. (You can't travel 90 miles, in 20 minutes, if you stick to the speed limit 70 mph).Using a rough calculation the universe would be expanding at approximately 2C+, Now that's fast!
@ericesque "Okay, 4th3157, assume for a moment that there is a God. Assume that He does have the power to create the universe and everything in it-- including you-- at a whim." 'Whim:Noun - a fanciful impulse, or whimsical idea'Ok, let's use that as the premise. "Now consider, He is not worshiped because He CAN do all of this, but because He DID do all of this-- He created you and chose to love you."Why does that deserve worship? Does a child worship his parents in the same way?No, yet they created the child and didn't choose to love it, they just love itbecause it's a biological impulse. If love is a choice then it's not true love,it's forced. "Have you ever rejected somebody just because they were different than you?" Yeah, that's because I'm human with human foibles. One would hope that godwould be above these petty frailties. "Maybe they weren't cool enough or they had poor hygiene... How could anyone be worthy of the presence of the creator of the universe?" Easy. I don't consider people who are worse off than me as not worthy of mypresence. If I reject someone because they are different than me then that'sbecause of my imperfections. If god has such an ego problem then that's prettystupid. "Yet, God does more than allow us to be in His presence when we worship Him. When we ask for His forgiveness," Forgiveness from what? Why should anyone have to ask for forgiveness just becausegod has been appointed as the magic space pixie ruler? There's no external law thatdictates such silly demands. "He humbles Himself and pulls us back out of the mud. He's WAY up there, we're so far down here... but He comes down and rescues us from our sin. That is righteousness. That is love. THAT is reason enough to worship God."See what you've done? You've taken a simple concept (god) and introduced sillydogma (sin) without any explanation, rationalisation or evidence. We do not needto be rescued from 'sin', whatever that means. We are not broken or fallen people,we are human beings, we behave according to how we are created. We are not perfectbut we don't need a magic space pixie to forgive us to save us from the eternaltorture camp that he's set up for people who don't believe what he wants them tobelieve.If you can't see the total absurdity of your beliefs then I pity you. If you thinkthat the appaling suffering in this world doesn't prove that there isn't a caringgod then I pity you. There is zero evidence to believe in god. The attributes ofgod that you give are completely illogical, unprovable made up nonsense. I urgeyou to actually read your bible and listen to what is written in there. The sheerevil that is done by god and in the name of god that is documented in the bibleis proof positive that it doesn't exist.
quokkapoxFeb 9, 2007
It is actually surprising that stargazers haven't picked out a pattern of stars that resembles a human face, or other human-influenced picture/icon/shape.Oh wait, never mind, they're called constellations.
magicdFeb 9, 2007
This is what gets me....Say it was the Big Bang, and everything started as a ball the size of a golf ball and exploded into what is now our universe. Where did the golf ball come from? And what is the universe expanding into? Empty space? It makes my brain hurt.
ahawksFeb 9, 2007
@joedoo:That brief clip of the most annoying thing on the internet represents the entire incompetence and ignorance of mankind. It's there to provide contrast. To remind people that life isn't about YouTube and the last episode of American Idol.
zjbirdFeb 9, 2007
I hope every google pic of the day doesn't waste the front page of digg
ijavajoeFeb 10, 2007
In this case, age is a limiting factor. If the expansion of the universe is limited by the speed of light, (the universe is composed of matter), then the size of the universe cannot be larger then distance light travels in the amount of time that has transpired since the BigBang.Look at it this way: Take a Hubble image of a place in the universe that is 78 Billion light years away from earth; this means it has taken 78 Billion years for the light to travel from that place to the Hubble's camera. If the universe is 13 Billion years old then there has NOT been enough time for the light to travel 78 Billion Light years.So the question how can light have traveled farther then is possible for the amount of time that has elapsed. (You can't travel 90 miles, in 20 minutes, if you stick to the speed limit 70 mph).Using a rough calculation the universe would be expanding at approximately 2C+, Now that's fast!
4th3157Feb 16, 2007
It was the result of a collision in higher dimensional space.
4th3157Feb 16, 2007
Religion is a fight over who has the best imaginary friend.
4th3157Feb 16, 2007
@ericesque "Okay, 4th3157, assume for a moment that there is a God. Assume that He does have the power to create the universe and everything in it-- including you-- at a whim." 'Whim:Noun - a fanciful impulse, or whimsical idea'Ok, let's use that as the premise. "Now consider, He is not worshiped because He CAN do all of this, but because He DID do all of this-- He created you and chose to love you."Why does that deserve worship? Does a child worship his parents in the same way?No, yet they created the child and didn't choose to love it, they just love itbecause it's a biological impulse. If love is a choice then it's not true love,it's forced. "Have you ever rejected somebody just because they were different than you?" Yeah, that's because I'm human with human foibles. One would hope that godwould be above these petty frailties. "Maybe they weren't cool enough or they had poor hygiene... How could anyone be worthy of the presence of the creator of the universe?" Easy. I don't consider people who are worse off than me as not worthy of mypresence. If I reject someone because they are different than me then that'sbecause of my imperfections. If god has such an ego problem then that's prettystupid. "Yet, God does more than allow us to be in His presence when we worship Him. When we ask for His forgiveness," Forgiveness from what? Why should anyone have to ask for forgiveness just becausegod has been appointed as the magic space pixie ruler? There's no external law thatdictates such silly demands. "He humbles Himself and pulls us back out of the mud. He's WAY up there, we're so far down here... but He comes down and rescues us from our sin. That is righteousness. That is love. THAT is reason enough to worship God."See what you've done? You've taken a simple concept (god) and introduced sillydogma (sin) without any explanation, rationalisation or evidence. We do not needto be rescued from 'sin', whatever that means. We are not broken or fallen people,we are human beings, we behave according to how we are created. We are not perfectbut we don't need a magic space pixie to forgive us to save us from the eternaltorture camp that he's set up for people who don't believe what he wants them tobelieve.If you can't see the total absurdity of your beliefs then I pity you. If you thinkthat the appaling suffering in this world doesn't prove that there isn't a caringgod then I pity you. There is zero evidence to believe in god. The attributes ofgod that you give are completely illogical, unprovable made up nonsense. I urgeyou to actually read your bible and listen to what is written in there. The sheerevil that is done by god and in the name of god that is documented in the bibleis proof positive that it doesn't exist.