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At our design/dev shop, we will code a site to be IE6 compliant but the client has to pay extra for it. We support IE7+/Firefox/Webkit, anything else costs extra. We find this is the best balance to discourage IE6 without potentially losing a client. Also, if you're doing your CSS properly, your conditional-fixes should be very minimal unless the site is doing something advanced in its layout. To be sure, I can't wait till we can officially drop IE6 for good.

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agile: <a class="user" href="http://blueprintcss.org/tests/parts/grid.html&quot;&gt;http://blueprintcss.org/tests/parts/grid.html&lt;/a&gt;&amp;lt;div class=&quot;content&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;span-4&quot;&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;span-16&quot;&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;span-4 last&quot;&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;

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This isn't just about some insane design standards people! This is about the fact that when the Google bot runs across a &lt;table&gt; tag, it should be able to reasonably assume that some sort of important data is being presented in a... table!You know how you can search definitions of words on Google? That's because of the &lt;dl&gt; definition list tag and it's associations. Imagine someday we can type &quot;population new york city&quot; in Google and it can find a properly marked up data table and can display the answer clearly, like with definitions, instead of wondering whether this table is actually some piss poor 3-column layout and the number it finds is the number of registered users on a forum or another equally non-useful piece of data.Browser support for CSS needs to get better so it's as trivial to make a fluid n-column, m-row layout with proper markup and CSS as it is to use a table. And eventually, we front-end developers are going to need to stop being pussies and make non-compliant browsers stop working on our websites. You can't play an MP3 in a record player, people.

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<a class="user" href="http://960.gs/&quot;&gt;http://960.gs/&lt;/a&gt;

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It's not. This is why I have a job. You amateurs can all f**k off. I need to get paid.

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Next they'll be saying there's a way to bold text using CSS.It's a miracle!

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Is this some sort of Bizarro digg thread, where lunacy has run amok? Tables are non-semantic for the purpose of laying out a document, that's why they shouldn't be used. Tables are for tabular data. They also aren't any easier or quicker, in fact they often take longer and are difficult to maintain.

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wow is that site back from the 90s?? holly green man!

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wtf is this?

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For SEO you can talk with seo specialists from <a class="user" href="http://digg.com/design/Montreal_web_design_Search_engine_optimization&quot;&gt;http://digg.com/design/Montreal_web_design_Search_ ...</a>

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the three columns are really awesome for SEO! this is great I think!

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Thanks!

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@mrBitch, I hope you know that Hayashi participates in pay per post programs where he gets paid to say nice things about products in his posts, so I'd take what he says with a grain of salt. It is true that although the iPhone is popular in countries like the US, its sales are not as good worldwide. In many countries such as China (which currently has the largest Internet population of any country in the world), it is not even released, and while many have obtained it through 3rd party sellers, surfing the web through phones hasn't caught on yet.In Europe, Nokia still possesses the majority of the mobile phone market- think Apple only owned around 3% of it as of early this year. Countries like Japan prefer local companies as well.

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You table pushers piss me off. Please use tables for tabular data and not design. Every time I open a site someone else designed with tables its a freakin nightmare. Ever hear what the deaf hear when they go to your table slop site? table table table freakin table!

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