I'm hoping that if nothing else, paypal gets scared. There are to many horror stories where Paypal simply doesn't care about customers. It has no real competitors. Even if the Goggle offering isn't able to directly threaten PayPal right now, it'll be enough to wake them up.Google has managed to leverage itself into many markets that newcomers had "no hope" in, and generally caused improvement and innovation in each.If paypal improves, Google Checkout will likely never be able to gain any real dominance. If PayPal stagnates, then Google will gain another market of dominance.
The only thing I use paypal for is sending payments to other individuals when buying things via ebay or online classified ads. Checkout can't replace that until it allows payments between individuals (right now the recipient has to have a web store set up).
OK, so PayPal so kindly stores my money for me. Where is my interest that they are earning on this? Think about the millions of dollars of interest they earn off of every ones money.Oh, and 100% fraud protection for items over $100. What? I guess maybe on paper, but there are many horror stories. Many even on Digg, like the last revenge story we saw. He had to take revenge because Pay Pal and eBay wouldn't refund his lost money.
Paypal is good to me, and for a lot of other sellers. Some people think that they can play the sytem. Paypal has been here for so long, they studied the market, the people, what they do, how they do it, then they create policies to protect them and everybody else.Paypal saves your money, and guess what ? It gives you a monthly interest on it, 4.95% yield. The money that you have on Paypal is on a Money Market. And you are earning money each month.People knows and trust paypal. If you had a bad experience is because you try to play the system. I don't know about Google, they are good for search- but as you can see that's the only thing they are really good at. Because every where they try to stick their nose, it's not working as expected.GCO doesn't have no history, and because they may not allow the seller to see the buyer's email, it' s kind of hard to contact the customer if there is a problem.The email is just to contact a buyer. But hey. Paypal rules. With 100 millions useres, you can't go wrong.
Some people may still be saying that Google is out to eat PayPal's lunch, but there is a very good possibility that GCO really doesnt want to go that route.Google owns the ad market, we all know it. They own this market because their search engine commands almost half of the searches performed on the web today, and as a merchant, getting your products and services in front of the largest audience is key to converting sales.So as a merchant, going with GCO gives me 2 advantages over another online payment service.1) Since I already use Google AdWords, using GCO will give me credits to earn towards my advertising2) I am using the payment service offered by the company that has the highest customer base among its competitors, taking into account that my customer is basically anyone searching for something to buy on the web.A third minor advantage of GCO is that their rates are also slightly better than PayPal'sSo essentially I am reducing advertising/marketing costs through AdWords discounts and I am (hopefully) increasing revenue by offering a payment system that is integrated with the method the customer used to find my product (much the same way PayPal is to eBay). I dont see any other payment system available that would give me those same potential advantages.Google is out to aggregate the world's information including products for sale through the web, not provide a way for joe blow to transfer funds to his buddy. Google started with search and mastered it, then they built AdWords on top of that search and this has now has become their main source of revenue because it was integrated with their already most widely used product. They are doing the exact same thing here by building GCO to work with AdWords, which is take your existing product and add functionality to it that supports the user being able to execute an entire transaction within a single application. If you know that users are clicking on ads because they use the web as a medium for product purchases, why not provide the method of payment as well, its not rocket science.But this is why I think PayPal and GCO will live for the most part in harmony...Google just wants to use this as a means for its users to purchase products on the web whereas PayPal wants to be the world leader in online financial transactions, everything from buying on eBay and different websites to performing interpersonal transactions between individuals. There is some common ground there, but overall a distinct difference exists.
You mean like Google search? That hasn't been working so well lately either. Nor has Adsense. Or Froogle, which has degenerated into another way to find eBay listings. Orkut's biggest strength is the drug connections users can make in Brazil (and child perv rings that frequent the join). Google Maps still can't produce correct directions for SoCal and is only 50/50 at best outside of NorCal; Windows Live Local and Yahoo Maps Beta blow GMaps away for accuracy and usability and fall short only in the developer APIs...for now. Google News is a random bunch of crap. Gmail...looks nice, and that's about it; storing my email forever is not going to persuade me to ever use their service for anything except throwaway email.Really, Blogger and Writely are some of the few things Google's got going for it right now. And they *bought* both of them. Just because Google's motto is not to do evil doesn't mean they actually uphold it. Exxon used to pride itself on it's environmentalism and we all know how well that turned out (or maybe not if you hadn't been born at the time of the spill).
Hello whiterajah,To create a plug-in for Virtuemart to use google checkout it doesn't take that long. Our Joomla Community in the Philippines www.joombo.ph has already developed a plug-in that works fine with PHP5 and we are working on it to make it compatible with PHP4.My brief opinion about Paypal based on my experience with them: Paypal SUCKS! but I am still using them because there is no good alternative.I hope Google will knock them out and I also hope Google will soon expand Checkout to other countries.
I don't think any of you guys have idea of what you are talking about! I've been with paypal for a while and google checkout, everybody is trying to control YOUR MONEY and get little bit of your money. When there are millions of customers and you charge them $1 that's millions, so you get the point. So eBay, paypal, GCO they can present them self always better than their competitor, but in the end they are all the same money socking system!!! I dealt a lot with transactions on eBay, Iam Platinum power seller currently on eBay and I noticed 1 thing that always been true, and nobody talks about and or notices it. If you want to be successful on eBay or anywhere on line or in store, it doesn't matter, there is one rule that is true always been and always be, that "Treat others the same way you want to be treated' So that basically includes everything. We always want to sell crap, for a lot of profit and we never want to see a charge back, even though we sent it a week later, but on our website we clearly say that we will send as soon as we get the payment. Plus eBay and other on line stores or websites, are known for sending not what showed on the picture or what says in description. I saw statistics one day that there is more than a billion just in fraud on line, that's how much buyers and sellers lose just in US not counting Europe or Asia. So I deal with over 50 countries in the world, I use pay pal, GCO and Western Union and other services that I will not name, and I never had any charge backs that I lost. I always get tempted when someone pays me with western union not to send it to them, especially from Africa, since Nigeria is considered capital of the world for FRAUD, I know who sells a lot on Internet will agree with me, but I always put my self in his position, How would I feel if I sent someone $1500 via western union and never got anything? I would probably cursed that seller for 2000 years him and his all family. So sellers please be good and "Treat others the way you wanted to be treated" Let that be your modo for 2008 and forever! I do it and let me tell you I am a happy man. I have everything I need! Thanks guys, and sorry if I offended anyone! NGPvladi
Anything is better than Paypal. Paypal offers no protection to the sellers, I know many people lost money and goods because of Paypal Charge Back Reverse Scam (don't know what is? look up on Youtube). Paypal also holds payments in your account for many stupid reasons such as "if you are on Ebay less than 6 months, and item is sold over $100" along with many many more "reasons" to hold your money, while Paypal makes millions of dollars of interest every day on the holds. So use Google Checkout or Moneybookers if you are a seller. For you P-lovers, shut your mouths until you have been using Paypal to sell something full time for 3 months.
I have joint PayPal recently, a week ago, they accepted my credit/debit card for two transactions and onthe third refused it and force me to give them my bank information to get access to my account and in the process are delaying my purchases. Calling numerous times and talking to their Sarah makes no difference. If so many sellers would not require paying via PayPal I would drop them like a hot potato.kuringdro
I wont use e-bay and pay pal is a pain you phone them and a robot answers the phone, I wanted to change my card or bank detaile and when I did they said I cant use this card because another company is using it with pay pal and I know which company but they said I would have to get another card, thats going to the bank and setting up a new account and I have to have £100.00 to open new account what is paypal playing at I know a few people who have had problems with them, the only other thing I can do is either use < Roman cart > or < Mals cart > just hope I dont have to put html code in as I cant do it this is the only page on my web site I have to finsh < Orderform and some kind of check out to recieve payment and its done
mork29Jul 19, 2006
I'm hoping that if nothing else, paypal gets scared. There are to many horror stories where Paypal simply doesn't care about customers. It has no real competitors. Even if the Goggle offering isn't able to directly threaten PayPal right now, it'll be enough to wake them up.Google has managed to leverage itself into many markets that newcomers had "no hope" in, and generally caused improvement and innovation in each.If paypal improves, Google Checkout will likely never be able to gain any real dominance. If PayPal stagnates, then Google will gain another market of dominance.
davefJul 19, 2006
The only thing I use paypal for is sending payments to other individuals when buying things via ebay or online classified ads. Checkout can't replace that until it allows payments between individuals (right now the recipient has to have a web store set up).
keith0256Jul 19, 2006
OK, so PayPal so kindly stores my money for me. Where is my interest that they are earning on this? Think about the millions of dollars of interest they earn off of every ones money.Oh, and 100% fraud protection for items over $100. What? I guess maybe on paper, but there are many horror stories. Many even on Digg, like the last revenge story we saw. He had to take revenge because Pay Pal and eBay wouldn't refund his lost money.
Closed AccountJul 19, 2006
Paypal is good to me, and for a lot of other sellers. Some people think that they can play the sytem. Paypal has been here for so long, they studied the market, the people, what they do, how they do it, then they create policies to protect them and everybody else.Paypal saves your money, and guess what ? It gives you a monthly interest on it, 4.95% yield. The money that you have on Paypal is on a Money Market. And you are earning money each month.People knows and trust paypal. If you had a bad experience is because you try to play the system. I don't know about Google, they are good for search- but as you can see that's the only thing they are really good at. Because every where they try to stick their nose, it's not working as expected.GCO doesn't have no history, and because they may not allow the seller to see the buyer's email, it' s kind of hard to contact the customer if there is a problem.The email is just to contact a buyer. But hey. Paypal rules. With 100 millions useres, you can't go wrong.
ccanni1028Jul 19, 2006
It is not in Beta. They have been using it as a payment system for AdWords and the GoogleStore for a while now.
devlindJul 19, 2006
Some people may still be saying that Google is out to eat PayPal's lunch, but there is a very good possibility that GCO really doesnt want to go that route.Google owns the ad market, we all know it. They own this market because their search engine commands almost half of the searches performed on the web today, and as a merchant, getting your products and services in front of the largest audience is key to converting sales.So as a merchant, going with GCO gives me 2 advantages over another online payment service.1) Since I already use Google AdWords, using GCO will give me credits to earn towards my advertising2) I am using the payment service offered by the company that has the highest customer base among its competitors, taking into account that my customer is basically anyone searching for something to buy on the web.A third minor advantage of GCO is that their rates are also slightly better than PayPal'sSo essentially I am reducing advertising/marketing costs through AdWords discounts and I am (hopefully) increasing revenue by offering a payment system that is integrated with the method the customer used to find my product (much the same way PayPal is to eBay). I dont see any other payment system available that would give me those same potential advantages.Google is out to aggregate the world's information including products for sale through the web, not provide a way for joe blow to transfer funds to his buddy. Google started with search and mastered it, then they built AdWords on top of that search and this has now has become their main source of revenue because it was integrated with their already most widely used product. They are doing the exact same thing here by building GCO to work with AdWords, which is take your existing product and add functionality to it that supports the user being able to execute an entire transaction within a single application. If you know that users are clicking on ads because they use the web as a medium for product purchases, why not provide the method of payment as well, its not rocket science.But this is why I think PayPal and GCO will live for the most part in harmony...Google just wants to use this as a means for its users to purchase products on the web whereas PayPal wants to be the world leader in online financial transactions, everything from buying on eBay and different websites to performing interpersonal transactions between individuals. There is some common ground there, but overall a distinct difference exists.
fatdog789Jul 20, 2006
You mean like Google search? That hasn't been working so well lately either. Nor has Adsense. Or Froogle, which has degenerated into another way to find eBay listings. Orkut's biggest strength is the drug connections users can make in Brazil (and child perv rings that frequent the join). Google Maps still can't produce correct directions for SoCal and is only 50/50 at best outside of NorCal; Windows Live Local and Yahoo Maps Beta blow GMaps away for accuracy and usability and fall short only in the developer APIs...for now. Google News is a random bunch of crap. Gmail...looks nice, and that's about it; storing my email forever is not going to persuade me to ever use their service for anything except throwaway email.Really, Blogger and Writely are some of the few things Google's got going for it right now. And they *bought* both of them. Just because Google's motto is not to do evil doesn't mean they actually uphold it. Exxon used to pride itself on it's environmentalism and we all know how well that turned out (or maybe not if you hadn't been born at the time of the spill).
whiterajahJul 20, 2006
PS I see weapons aren't among the items you can't sell on Google :)
joombphJul 22, 2006
Hello whiterajah,To create a plug-in for Virtuemart to use google checkout it doesn't take that long. Our Joomla Community in the Philippines www.joombo.ph has already developed a plug-in that works fine with PHP5 and we are working on it to make it compatible with PHP4.My brief opinion about Paypal based on my experience with them: Paypal SUCKS! but I am still using them because there is no good alternative.I hope Google will knock them out and I also hope Google will soon expand Checkout to other countries.
blackmore74Sep 11, 2006
is it possible to implement Google Checkout in a way that avoids sending users to Google?Has anybody done that?
mcsakeMar 21, 2007
There is now a working Google Checkout module for VirtueMart at <a class="user" href="http://www.powersellersunite.com/googlecheckout.php">http://www.powersellersunite.com/googlecheckout.php</a>
ngpvladiJan 5, 2008
I don't think any of you guys have idea of what you are talking about! I've been with paypal for a while and google checkout, everybody is trying to control YOUR MONEY and get little bit of your money. When there are millions of customers and you charge them $1 that's millions, so you get the point. So eBay, paypal, GCO they can present them self always better than their competitor, but in the end they are all the same money socking system!!! I dealt a lot with transactions on eBay, Iam Platinum power seller currently on eBay and I noticed 1 thing that always been true, and nobody talks about and or notices it. If you want to be successful on eBay or anywhere on line or in store, it doesn't matter, there is one rule that is true always been and always be, that "Treat others the same way you want to be treated' So that basically includes everything. We always want to sell crap, for a lot of profit and we never want to see a charge back, even though we sent it a week later, but on our website we clearly say that we will send as soon as we get the payment. Plus eBay and other on line stores or websites, are known for sending not what showed on the picture or what says in description. I saw statistics one day that there is more than a billion just in fraud on line, that's how much buyers and sellers lose just in US not counting Europe or Asia. So I deal with over 50 countries in the world, I use pay pal, GCO and Western Union and other services that I will not name, and I never had any charge backs that I lost. I always get tempted when someone pays me with western union not to send it to them, especially from Africa, since Nigeria is considered capital of the world for FRAUD, I know who sells a lot on Internet will agree with me, but I always put my self in his position, How would I feel if I sent someone $1500 via western union and never got anything? I would probably cursed that seller for 2000 years him and his all family. So sellers please be good and "Treat others the way you wanted to be treated" Let that be your modo for 2008 and forever! I do it and let me tell you I am a happy man. I have everything I need! Thanks guys, and sorry if I offended anyone! NGPvladi
darkimmortalMay 5, 2008
Look more closely...
kenarthurJun 2, 2008
Anything is better than Paypal. Paypal offers no protection to the sellers, I know many people lost money and goods because of Paypal Charge Back Reverse Scam (don't know what is? look up on Youtube). Paypal also holds payments in your account for many stupid reasons such as "if you are on Ebay less than 6 months, and item is sold over $100" along with many many more "reasons" to hold your money, while Paypal makes millions of dollars of interest every day on the holds. So use Google Checkout or Moneybookers if you are a seller. For you P-lovers, shut your mouths until you have been using Paypal to sell something full time for 3 months.
arthereSep 30, 2008
Good read <a class="user" href="http://www.creditcardassociate.com/paypal.html">http://www.creditcardassociate.com/paypal.html</a>
kuringdroApr 6, 2009
I have joint PayPal recently, a week ago, they accepted my credit/debit card for two transactions and onthe third refused it and force me to give them my bank information to get access to my account and in the process are delaying my purchases. Calling numerous times and talking to their Sarah makes no difference. If so many sellers would not require paying via PayPal I would drop them like a hot potato.kuringdro
lizziedrip06Apr 2, 2010
I wont use e-bay and pay pal is a pain you phone them and a robot answers the phone, I wanted to change my card or bank detaile and when I did they said I cant use this card because another company is using it with pay pal and I know which company but they said I would have to get another card, thats going to the bank and setting up a new account and I have to have £100.00 to open new account what is paypal playing at I know a few people who have had problems with them, the only other thing I can do is either use < Roman cart > or < Mals cart > just hope I dont have to put html code in as I cant do it this is the only page on my web site I have to finsh < Orderform and some kind of check out to recieve payment and its done