msnbc.msn.com — “It comes as no shock at all that Steve Irwin should die provoking a dangerous animal,” PETA’s Dan Mathews tells The Scoop. “He made a career out of antagonizing frightened wild animals, which is a very dangerous message to send to kids.” Nice people, huh?
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zornSep 11, 2006
There are two things here. One, Steve Irwin did a lot of good conservation work. Two, he humiliated animals for profit and entertainment. People can be contradictory and inconsistent. He lacked self-reflection.
ramiroSep 13, 2006
@Zorn: "Humiliate" is a verb applicable to humans. You cannot use "humiliate" in the same sense in the case of animals - even less so with crocodiles.Steve seemed to be the kind of person who would do what he did even if it resulted in no profit.And speaking of contradictory and inconsistent, PETA "rescues" animals to kill them. They even have a freezing chamber in which they store the corpses of the animals they pretended to save. The real business of PETA is not really to love animals, but to hate humans.
battleangelSep 13, 2006
@ramiro: Is there a reason not to hate humans? We constantly show by example that we are worth less than animals.It doesn't really matter that animals can't understand the word "humiliate". It's enough that WE can appreciate that what we are doing would amount to humiliation if we'd done it to a fellow human. In that sense, animal liberation is just as much liberating ourselves as the animals. Also for an allegory, consider this: Our own children don't understand the world either but that doesn't mean that we condone abuse of them.
ramiroSep 13, 2006
That is ludicrous. In spite of scumbags like PETA people and Bin Laden, there is no reason to hate humans. We are not worth less than animals - if anything, you should speak for yourself. We are the only species capable of concern for other species, like the example lived by Steve Irwin. That reason is enough to consider our species the most valuable of all - the only species capable of caring and taking action to conserve the other species.You don't have a valid criteria to use the word "humiliate". According to your view, when we educate our children we are humiliating them when we punish their bad behaviors or when we deny something to them for their own good as parents usually do. Same goes when Steve Irwin displayed and handled wild animals in front of the cameras. That was not humiliation, that was necessary in order to sell the idea of conservation.
mickeybaihnJun 12, 2008
all you people hate steve irwin because you're all jeolous of him your nothing but cowards and probaly screw your own mothers you peice of scum