I'm going to wait before I totally believe this one. I mean Sony seriously has no god-damn reason to do this at all other than to maybe lower costs in the future - but is it really worth cutting off like 80% of the future PS3 owners that owned a PS2 and destroying almost all of currently what most of us PS3 owners are playing during the downtime in games.If this HAS happened, I'm hoping it won't be as severe as they are making out to be. Like maybe they'll only have a few problems with games here and there or something.
The PS1 is part of the PS2 architecture, just like the GBA is part of the DS architecture. The PS1 functions as an I/O coprocessor in PS2 mode, just as the GBA functions as an I/O and sound coprocessor in the DS. They never switched to software emulation - they still need the PS1 anyway (actually, they might be emulating the PS1 graphics in software, but if they are, they've done that all along).The PAL PS3 is probably going to do straight software emulation of PS1 games (where the compatibility is high because PS1 emulation is relatively easy, and has been beaten to death on the PC). However, PS2 emulation is extremely complicated. No wonder some (many?) games won't work.Now, if they'd done this all along, it would be fine. However, Sony decided to screw over Europeans only. That's not going to result in good press.
How many Australian families could actually AFFORD a PS3 anyway? Many in New Zealand chose the Wii or even a PS2 over the Xbox 360 (which retails for around NZ$400 for the Core System, IIRC), so if they can't even warrant that cost how many here are going to go for the PS3?
Well its not like they rip out the hardware, stick a pal sticker on it and jack up the price.Its a totally different machine. The assembly line is different so they might as well implement what they can. As for ones coming to the US and JP, eventually they WILL have software emulation. Its not like Sony hates Europe. Europe just have the most up to date assembly lines working for them. It was just cheaper to take out some PS2 hardware now while they need to start from scratch. Just like it will probably cost them more to retool all the NTSC plants every time they could theoretically emulate a new piece of PS2 hardware. I'm sure once the PS3 gets the smaller process Cell chips there won't be any more hardware emulation.
Is it just me or does what happened with Lik-Sang a few months ago now seem to fit with a 'long term' plan:<a class="user" href="http://www.lik-sang.com/">http://www.lik-sang.com/</a>I mean if your going to put limited functionality in your hardware by region it only seems logical to kill off the import shops and get some legal footing before doing so. Especially if you want anyone to buy the regional one you intended.Well played.. Sony, thanks for thinking of little old me the consumer.
How is it different?? Do you even know wat you are talking about. I'm not even going to take the time to explain the byzantine DRM implemented on the PS3 versus the others. Try reading sometime; you'll learn something. Microsoft seriously wants a gaming platform so they pulled all the stops to make that happen. Sony thought they could ride on the Playstation name meanwhile lying about the features of the yet unlaunched PS3 to try to draw attention away from the year lead of the x360 (How many HDMI ports does the PS3 really have? How many times were the specs downgraded? Microsoft Nintendo never made more than slight adjustment. Nintendo kept everything underwraps)Nintendo IS gaming since they have been making games since the 19th century.If I have old Xbox games that would mean I would have an old xbox. Besides every game that I want to go back to play (which are very few) ARE compatible with the x360. And there are hundreds of games on the compat list for x360. Every game worth playing is on the list. Psychonauts was the last game needed and now the list is complete as far as I am concerned
For a company that's been heavily criticised for how it treats it's consumers, it's really really not helping the matter.For a start they are already charging more for it than the rest of the world (Imagine paying $850 for a PS3). It's as if they've kind of given up on Europe and surrendered to being third place, and spending there time concentrating on the US and Japan
mousecircusFeb 23, 2007
Bury this post, please. I forgot to hit the reply button.
coheedcollapseFeb 23, 2007
I'm going to wait before I totally believe this one. I mean Sony seriously has no god-damn reason to do this at all other than to maybe lower costs in the future - but is it really worth cutting off like 80% of the future PS3 owners that owned a PS2 and destroying almost all of currently what most of us PS3 owners are playing during the downtime in games.If this HAS happened, I'm hoping it won't be as severe as they are making out to be. Like maybe they'll only have a few problems with games here and there or something.
marcanFeb 23, 2007
The PS1 is part of the PS2 architecture, just like the GBA is part of the DS architecture. The PS1 functions as an I/O coprocessor in PS2 mode, just as the GBA functions as an I/O and sound coprocessor in the DS. They never switched to software emulation - they still need the PS1 anyway (actually, they might be emulating the PS1 graphics in software, but if they are, they've done that all along).The PAL PS3 is probably going to do straight software emulation of PS1 games (where the compatibility is high because PS1 emulation is relatively easy, and has been beaten to death on the PC). However, PS2 emulation is extremely complicated. No wonder some (many?) games won't work.Now, if they'd done this all along, it would be fine. However, Sony decided to screw over Europeans only. That's not going to result in good press.
masterthiefsterFeb 23, 2007
How many Australian families could actually AFFORD a PS3 anyway? Many in New Zealand chose the Wii or even a PS2 over the Xbox 360 (which retails for around NZ$400 for the Core System, IIRC), so if they can't even warrant that cost how many here are going to go for the PS3?
evilishFeb 24, 2007
@blankchequeDo you seriously think most normal people who buy the PS3 are capable of updating the consoles firmware?friggen nubblet..
jayd16Feb 24, 2007
Well its not like they rip out the hardware, stick a pal sticker on it and jack up the price.Its a totally different machine. The assembly line is different so they might as well implement what they can. As for ones coming to the US and JP, eventually they WILL have software emulation. Its not like Sony hates Europe. Europe just have the most up to date assembly lines working for them. It was just cheaper to take out some PS2 hardware now while they need to start from scratch. Just like it will probably cost them more to retool all the NTSC plants every time they could theoretically emulate a new piece of PS2 hardware. I'm sure once the PS3 gets the smaller process Cell chips there won't be any more hardware emulation.
shrtcwwFeb 24, 2007
Is it just me or does what happened with Lik-Sang a few months ago now seem to fit with a 'long term' plan:<a class="user" href="http://www.lik-sang.com/">http://www.lik-sang.com/</a>I mean if your going to put limited functionality in your hardware by region it only seems logical to kill off the import shops and get some legal footing before doing so. Especially if you want anyone to buy the regional one you intended.Well played.. Sony, thanks for thinking of little old me the consumer.
crcurranFeb 24, 2007
How is it different?? Do you even know wat you are talking about. I'm not even going to take the time to explain the byzantine DRM implemented on the PS3 versus the others. Try reading sometime; you'll learn something. Microsoft seriously wants a gaming platform so they pulled all the stops to make that happen. Sony thought they could ride on the Playstation name meanwhile lying about the features of the yet unlaunched PS3 to try to draw attention away from the year lead of the x360 (How many HDMI ports does the PS3 really have? How many times were the specs downgraded? Microsoft Nintendo never made more than slight adjustment. Nintendo kept everything underwraps)Nintendo IS gaming since they have been making games since the 19th century.If I have old Xbox games that would mean I would have an old xbox. Besides every game that I want to go back to play (which are very few) ARE compatible with the x360. And there are hundreds of games on the compat list for x360. Every game worth playing is on the list. Psychonauts was the last game needed and now the list is complete as far as I am concerned
splutterbugFeb 26, 2007
For a company that's been heavily criticised for how it treats it's consumers, it's really really not helping the matter.For a start they are already charging more for it than the rest of the world (Imagine paying $850 for a PS3). It's as if they've kind of given up on Europe and surrendered to being third place, and spending there time concentrating on the US and Japan