torrentfreak.com — If the likes of the MPAA, RIAA and IFPI are to be believed, file-sharing is causing worldwide havok, costing billions of dollars and creating unemployment. It's true that some people are feeling the P2P effect; they're called 'physical pirates' and one of them says that file-sharing has ruined his business.
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bestenemyMar 18, 2007
"software houses we know and love"? You sound like a TV ad voiceover. I hate computers and software companies. Never loved them, never liked them, never cared for them. Working in the IT, and so what? I hate my employers too. Screw them them! If this ship goes down, I'll go down with it, or become someone that actually produces something physical, like food or housing units.
actorboyMar 18, 2007
"Make a good game, I'll buy it, make a lame game and I'll pirate it, play it, uninstall it in disgust and tell all my friends it sucked too."If only I could get my dollar back for every piece of pie I ate that wasn't the best f**king piece of pie in the world. Or better yet, if they would let me eat it first, and then decide whether or not it was good enough to pay for. Sadly, someone made that pie, and if I want to eat it, I have to pay it.
jeffdMar 18, 2007
Way to be a racist f**k.
xodexMar 18, 2007
2002 mate?
meshmanMar 18, 2007
I'm all for downloading but selling copies for profit is going to far imo. If you're busted doing this I won't shed a tear.
goettelMar 18, 2007
Welcome to Irony Class. Please sit front row.
flamekebabMar 18, 2007
@actorboyWell at least in the UK, I'm pretty certain the law states that if I'm not satisfied with the pie I am entitled to get my money back.Also, pie is an awful analogy.Why?Because if I make a digital copy of something it's not like taking a physical copy off the shelf, preventing someone else from buying it.But if you want to use the analogy of pie, I would either send back bad pie or simply demand my money back.There is risk in most industries, but it seems the movie industry and the record industry think they're above that these days. They need to be taken down a few notches, I reckon.
actorboyMar 18, 2007
@Dylan16807The point is, the people who created it don't see a dime from those 1000 exchanges.
actorboyMar 19, 2007
@ babar77?Bulls**t on the pie. If you're at a restaurant, and you don't like the food you tell them to take it back and make it right.?Yes, but you don't get to eat the entire meal before asking for a re-cook. You take a few bites, and if you don?t like it, you send it back. They have something like this in the software and entertainment industries too ? it?s called demos, trailers, audio samples, and third party reviews."I can't tell you the amount of times I paid to see a movie and thought, "Well, that movie sucked, I'm far from entertained, so who do I talk to so I can get my money back. Oh yeah, no one, I was just sold an elixir." Really? I rarely leave movies feeling I've been ripped off. You know why? Because I because I know which actors, directors and writers I like; the kinds of films that entertain me; and which critics and awards I trust. If a trailer interests me and I know nothing about the people involved, I read reviews and look for awards or nominations. Petty damn full proof thus far. And the few times I've walked out of movies because some kid was kicking my seat, I've always gotten money back or a credit. You know why? Because I went to the manager before the film was over. I didn?t eat the whole pie.?I'm sorry, but these industries want their cake and eat it too. They want access to a massive ROI without any risk.??I design physical products, and if what we design sucks, it loses money, period! We don't get together with our competitors to fix prices then whine to the government that every time someone even looks at our product they should pay a royalty so that every product we make turns a profit (e.g. the existence of the RIAA and MPAA).?Not sure what you?re talking about. Consumers don?t pay royalties; the manufacturer pays them out of revenues from item sales. I assume people wanting your product still have to buy it, yes? I suspect if they took it without paying -- and reaped its full benefits, sucky or not -- you would consult your attorneys and contact authorities as quickly as anyone.?We don't get together and force small distributors out of business in fear that they might sell a start-ups product (recent internet radio price hike).?Correct me if I?m wrong, but if RIAA music becomes too expensive for smaller Internet radio stations to run, that means they?ll be playing more non-RIAA music, not less. And those radio stations are commercial entities, aren?t they? They?re pulling in revenue somehow. If U2 increases a station?s traffic, U2 should be compensated ? same as if Brad Pitt?s face on one of your products doubled its sales.Once our products are sold we don't have any control over how the customer uses it (DRM). DRM was created in an attempt to stem the tide of piracy. I?m all for your ability to easily exchange content between your own machines, but the honor system ended when people stopped honoring it. Blame the people who see no harm in piracy.?I'm sorry, I live and breathe in this world, and every time I see this crap that spews out of the RIAA and MPAA mouths I wonder, why do they get special treatment? Aren't there laws against this??Special treatment from whom? The legislators? The authorities? Digital piracy is rampant. The more rampant the crime, the more attention it gets. Plain and simple.?Every other industry has to do the old fashioned way, talk to their customers, treat them right, every once and a while take a risk, and earn the money they make.?It can be argued that people pirating content have to earn that respect. For speculation purposes, try turning your statement around; ?Every customer has to deal with businesses the old fashioned way, research their products, abide by their terms of use, and pay for the products they use.?@ Flamekebab?Well at least in the UK, I'm pretty certain the law states that if I'm not satisfied with the pie I am entitled to get my money back.?Not if you eat the whole pie."Also, pie is an awful analogy. Why? Because if I make a digital copy of something it's not like taking a physical copy off the shelf, preventing someone else from buying it."We?re talking about consumption, not inventory. You don?t get to stuff yourself silly, say it was crap, and walk out without paying -- no matter now much food the restaurant has left.?There is risk in most industries, but it seems the movie industry and the record industry think they're above that these days. They need to be taken down a few notches, I reckon.?Not really sure how loss-prevention figures into the normal ?either it sells or it doesn?t? risk of doing business. If you don?t like their products, or the price they?re asking, or the product protections they use, then boycott them. That does not, however, give you the right to have those products without paying for them. That makes you the bad guy, the kind who thinks he is above the law, and needs to be taken down a few notches, I reckon.
mytmntMay 26, 2007
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