weblogs.mozillazine.org — Asa Dotzler takes on the new IE7 beta in a post detailing why it still falls short of Firefox. "We've done amazing work here at Mozilla over the last few years, [...] causing the largest software company in the world to get up off its butt and start thinking about users again." He also note that a severe IE7 flaw was found 15 minutes after release!
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devilsrejectionFeb 4, 2006
what people don't understand is that developers are very cool, laid back people.it's the fanboys who start the flame wars, Firefox vs. IE, Linux vs Windows, Mac vs. Windows, these are the assh**es who go out and about, with a completly biased view of products, and get insulted as idiots.
j_carcinogenFeb 4, 2006
"IE 7 beta 2 still isn't that bad but uh it still lacks the security. I don't want ActiveX" did you read? he said activeX is disabled by default.
statictenFeb 4, 2006
@jinexileoh yeah, and when i said "i'd still use ie....blahblah.."I meant to say, I USe FIrefox mainly, but keep IE handy for those site who strictly require IE to run properly or even run at all.
waltschmidtFeb 4, 2006
There are several features in IE7 that offer an improved experience over Firefox. Will I switch away from Firefox? Not right now. After all, it took me a year to let go of the IE experience and move to Firefox in the first place. I like to stick with a browser once I get comfortable with it, even if something else is a better experience. Was it just me, or did I read a hint of sour grapes? A lot of unnecessary "we already did that" language.
whitehatlurkerFeb 5, 2006
@Mastertech: "Asa claims Firefox invented everything."Just the stuff that originated in Opera ;-)He seems to be fairly careful about that "feature Q was popularised by FF" ... it is hard to argue with that, primarily as this is subjective (at best). You can say "Q was in browser N for years", which can be shot down with "Ah, but FF popularised it."
worbdFeb 5, 2006
Tried IE7 after reading this.It rocks!I'm dumping Firefox and moving to IE7 now. Asa Dotzler has always bothered me. He's abusive and a liar, and he's really damaged Firefox's reputation. Now I'll move over to Microsoft's IE7 instead, as it's far better than Firefox, even as a beta. Firefox 1.5 eats memory like mad!Thanks, Asa. You've always been an assh**e, but I kept using Firefox. Now I won't bother anymore.
jinexileFeb 6, 2006
"ActiveX in IE is extensions in Firefox. If you hate ActiveX you should stay well away from Firefox.---i think we'll see exploits soon for firefox. it is really not that secure."The ActiveX plugin (not extension) for Firefox is not even listed on the plugins page, it only works (last time I checked) with WMP and only on whitelisted sites. This implimentation is far more secure than IE's