uneasysilence.com — "Is this true? Will the TextEdit application included with OS X Leopard support Office 2007 documents? That’s what the above screenshot is boasting. Credit to Mark for sending the link to the full size image. Does anyone with the latest seed of Leopard care to comment? The font looks a little questionable in the screenshot..." Continued at source.
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chuckerDec 9, 2006
Whatever TextEdit can do, *any* Cocoa app can if it uses NSTextView. TextEdit is nothing but a simple implementation of Cocoa's AppKit.Since both iWork apps (Keynote and Pages) are written in Cocoa, running them on Leopard will let them *automatically* take advantage of this support, no changes on Apple's part needed.
iandangerDec 9, 2006
Actually the "Save as PDF" function is a feature of the Operating System, not the specific software. OSX just happens to be capable of processing all documents in PDF format because it is the default, just like this new XML format Microsoft invented is going to be Vista's default format.Adobe is pissed, might I add, and are trying to sue Microsoft over it.
nofxjunkeeDec 9, 2006
@slickto:"pushing open source interoperability" ... they say they are, but this is one area where they have a clear interest in keeping their monopoly and they'll have to put up or shut up on this one. code talks, them just saying these things means absolutely nothing at this point. until they can do better than their crappy, little exporter plug-in (ie. standard, built-in support for the format in Office) then they are just doing the minimum required to say that they are "pushing open source interoperability".
jeffgtrDec 9, 2006
I imagine you will be able to open and save as .doc in the next version of Iwork (maybe you can do that now, I'm still using Office Mac). The real concern seams to be that M$ is dropping VB support in the next version of Office for Mac and appears to be slowly killing off Mac support for office. I hope that with the next version of IWork which is suppose to have a spreadsheet program that they figure out a way to keep interoptability between the programs. Worst case scenario is there is always Parallels which if I understand correctly allows you to run Office without actually having windows installed.
slicktoDec 9, 2006
@nofxjunkee:While I may agree with the fact that Microsoft is not well known for their open source efforts, in regards to their Office documents, they have come along way. Microsoft's Office Open XML has now been approved as a defacto standard, and they will receive ISO approval. And, Apple has officially stated: "rival Apple Computer Inc. Ecma International announced Thursday its approval of Office Open XML as a standard, touting the step as vital for document creation and archiving".<a class="user" href="http://www.gameshout.com/news/microsoft_document_format_approved_as_standard/article8729.htm">http://www.gameshout.com/news/microsoft_document_format_approved_as_standard/article8729.htm</a>This, to me, looks like more than "just doing the minimum required". As @iandanger stated above: Can't we migrate to a different standard? Yes, it looks like we just might. This allows you to make more than just a crappy plugin, since now you, and everyone else will have access to this format. Having worked extensively with such proprietary formats as PDF (yes Adobe holds tight rein over this format, that's why they wouldn't let MS use it), I look forward to hoping the open XML format will offer a better choice.
nickelsaxDec 10, 2006
Apple was involved with the standardization process of the new file formats, (Including being the host of some of the meetings for the formats)as has publicly said it would be building in support for these new formats, so I would not be surprised
nofxjunkeeDec 10, 2006
@nofxjunkee:Considering MS's behaviour in the past, why hope for Open XML to be truly open when OpenDocument is already ISO certified?<a class="user" href="http://arstechnica.com/journals/microsoft.ars/2006/5/16/4002">http://arstechnica.com/journals/microsoft.ars/2006/5/16/4002</a>
chuckerDec 10, 2006
Conversely, I don't see how your comment is relevant at all, seeing as the document you speak of does not, by your very own assertion, use Office 2007's series of formats. .doc ≠ .docx.
jakkDec 10, 2006
Yes, it can. I'm running a leopard developer seed right now, and TextEdit reads (and writes!) Office 2007 beautifully