groklaw.net — If Microsoft gets this OOXML format "approved", it will be by irregularities in the voting, it seems. Here's more on what happened in Germany and a report on what is being called a scandal in Norway. And another odd process in Croatia.
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sniperslapMar 31, 2008
And it is this shift in values from quality and innovation that has allowed innovation to be nothing more than a line item.21st century business so far, focuses on the investor over the customer and product.
sniperslapMar 31, 2008
I know it is important for the standard to not get official recognition, but even if it did come through - adoption could hold the final say.If the non-MS standard was abandoned in use for the truly open one, then what does that make it?
Closed AccountMar 31, 2008
Indian situation here. <a class="user" href="http://osindia.blogspot.com/2008/03/microsoft-files-complaint-on-ooxml-vote.html">http://osindia.blogspot.com/2008/03/microsoft-file ...</a>And it stinks.
Closed AccountMar 31, 2008
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gruntboyxMar 31, 2008
you know...I can understand being upset that microsoft bought its votes, but ODF started it. They failed to include microsoft in the standards discussion and purposely designed a standard that would break Office. If you ask me The corruption started with Sun, IBM and ect. If you want to get upset that the standards process was broken, then how about creating a standard that failed to include Microsoft. If ODF had waited and had included microsoft and been willing to work with them then the whole world would be using a open file format right now. I understand its a two way street and Microsoft would have to give a little too, but they seem willing to do so to improve their PR. This has nothing to do with the integrity of standards but that the small players are now using the influence of governmental bodies to leverage against the number 1 player so they can compete. Not to mention...as a side note i really dont know if standards are going to work in the case of office software. everytime a new feature is implemented in software it has to use an experimental version of the spec until it gets approved by the super slow and highly corruptible bureaucratic process of standards. So ill have documents that use ODF draft 2.0 and ODF v1.0, and God knows what. But when the spec is finalized i have to update my Draft 2.0 documents to the 2.0 spec which will break the document. To me that would cause end user frustration and prevent them from using standards in the first place. The only people it will be of concern to is governments and public institutions"If your not getting negative diggs your just another sheeple. "
temujin12Mar 31, 2008
See that you actually follow through with that. I've said the same thing myself (I've been saying it for a while now), but this time I'm actually following through. There are still a couple of programs that I use that are Windows only programs. I'm now going to install Linux on all of my machines and only run XP (I won't run Vista) in VirtualBox. Then, once Wine is able to run my programs I'll stop using the virtual installation of XP and be 100% free.It's one thing to say you're going to stop using MS products. Let's start seeing some follow through.This is significant because the machines I'm talking about include the machines of a small business. This is one less business that will be chained to the MS. After I'm done making these changes, only one Windows image production box will be left over. Once that one is out of date, it will be replaced with a Mac.You've lost me, my family, and a small business as customers Microsoft. I hope more people do the same.
pilobilusApr 3, 2008
From a Microsoft internal memo:A stacked panel, on the other hand, is like a stacked deck: it is packed with people who, on the face of things, should be neutral, but who are in fact strong supporters of our technology. The key to stacking a panel is being able to choose the moderator. Most conference organizers allow the moderator to select the panel, so if you can pick the moderator, you win. Since you can't expect representatives of our competitors to speak on your behalf, you have to get the moderator to agree to having only "independent ISVs" on the panel. No one from Microsoft or any other formal backer of the competing technologies would be allowed รข" just ISVs who have to use this stuff in the "real world." Sounds marvelously independent doesn't it? In fact, it allows us to stack the panel with ISVs that back our cause.