virtualpetlist.com— Reports are trickling through this evening that Sony has indeed lost its patent case against Immersion technologies and will be forced to halt sales of its PS2 console.
Mar 20, 2006View in Crawl 4
"Yeah, just like how Microsoft used the same technology in their controllers. The only difference is they keeled over and shelled out the cash. And from what I've seen of the patent, not only was it wrongfully issued, but the technology they're trying to claim belongs to them was in existence for quite some time."Damn cyrix, I don't usually comment/care about console news, but I couldn't resist this time.Your first sentence says that Sony is getting an unfair wrap because MS is doing the same thing and isn't getting in trouble. Then your second sentence says "the only difference is microsoft bought what they used and didn't steal it". That's kind of the whole point of the lawsuit... notice the word "law" in lawsuit...As for the rest: what do you mean "what I've seen of the patent" - it's not exactly the length of a novel. And could you elaborate on "wrongfully issued"? If the "was in existence for a long time" is your explanation - apparently you don't know jack s**t about patent law. Maybe you've heard one or two tidbits in the news about people mapping and patenting parts of the human genome? You don't think they're the creators of the human genome do you? lol.But I guess you'll call me a fanboy too, regardless of the fact that the last console I owned was an NES.
yeah i felt stupid reading at a "virtual pets" site too, but the post actually was really good, he included links to other information about Sony and its patent problems
Sony does sell more than just video game consoles though. I believe they just past Samsung as the number 1 seller of LCD HDTVs. So theyll make money through other avenues.Who doesnt own a PS2 by now and still wants one though?
This needs to be said.1) Nintendo owns NO stake in Immersion. They have independant patents for a rumble mechanism using a piston to achieve the vibration effect. Immersion's patents are for rumble effects achieved through gyrating lopsided rotors, as can be seen by taking apart a Duel Shock controller.2) Microsoft was initially included in this lawsuit. However, they saw an opportunity--they IMMEDIATELY settled out of court, and then proceeded to buy a stake in the company and fund its lawsuit as a way of trying to screw over Sony.3) At this point, Sony is still trying to appeal this thing, but it seems to be futile. In the end, though, it looks like Sony will have to stop selling not only Dual Shock controllers, but from what I've heard (and this could be wrong) they also have to stop selling PSOnes and PS2s that are compatible with the existing infringing Dual Shock controllers.
You are smoking crack... Sony's Computer Entertainment Division has been keeping the company in the black for a number of years now.... 90% from home theater sales? You are making numbers up... I also hate fanboyism and you just gave yourself away as being a Sony **** s****r with this garbage you have put up here.... next time doe some research before making s**t up...
yeah this is lame. A small company that no one knows about who submited some lame patent gets to sue everyone. way to go america! I think I am going to register some patents and copy rights in the hopes of getting rich off of lawsuits some day! Maybe sony can find ways to counter sue and make them go under like they did with bleem. I don't agree with the tactic but this company is scum if you ask me. people talk like they are an american hero or something when they are just as bad as sony except they are an american company!
c0uchm0nsterMar 20, 2006
"Yeah, just like how Microsoft used the same technology in their controllers. The only difference is they keeled over and shelled out the cash. And from what I've seen of the patent, not only was it wrongfully issued, but the technology they're trying to claim belongs to them was in existence for quite some time."Damn cyrix, I don't usually comment/care about console news, but I couldn't resist this time.Your first sentence says that Sony is getting an unfair wrap because MS is doing the same thing and isn't getting in trouble. Then your second sentence says "the only difference is microsoft bought what they used and didn't steal it". That's kind of the whole point of the lawsuit... notice the word "law" in lawsuit...As for the rest: what do you mean "what I've seen of the patent" - it's not exactly the length of a novel. And could you elaborate on "wrongfully issued"? If the "was in existence for a long time" is your explanation - apparently you don't know jack s**t about patent law. Maybe you've heard one or two tidbits in the news about people mapping and patenting parts of the human genome? You don't think they're the creators of the human genome do you? lol.But I guess you'll call me a fanboy too, regardless of the fact that the last console I owned was an NES.
bootesMar 20, 2006
Copyright system sucks, patent system sucks, current presidency sucks. We need to fix our government.
evildeadxspMar 20, 2006
yeah i felt stupid reading at a "virtual pets" site too, but the post actually was really good, he included links to other information about Sony and its patent problems
antiproMar 20, 2006
Sony does sell more than just video game consoles though. I believe they just past Samsung as the number 1 seller of LCD HDTVs. So theyll make money through other avenues.Who doesnt own a PS2 by now and still wants one though?
Closed AccountMar 20, 2006
This needs to be said.1) Nintendo owns NO stake in Immersion. They have independant patents for a rumble mechanism using a piston to achieve the vibration effect. Immersion's patents are for rumble effects achieved through gyrating lopsided rotors, as can be seen by taking apart a Duel Shock controller.2) Microsoft was initially included in this lawsuit. However, they saw an opportunity--they IMMEDIATELY settled out of court, and then proceeded to buy a stake in the company and fund its lawsuit as a way of trying to screw over Sony.3) At this point, Sony is still trying to appeal this thing, but it seems to be futile. In the end, though, it looks like Sony will have to stop selling not only Dual Shock controllers, but from what I've heard (and this could be wrong) they also have to stop selling PSOnes and PS2s that are compatible with the existing infringing Dual Shock controllers.
ek3sMar 20, 2006
Gameboy owns PlayStation
fujiwaraMar 20, 2006
dually woot'd
riotactingMar 22, 2006
You are smoking crack... Sony's Computer Entertainment Division has been keeping the company in the black for a number of years now.... 90% from home theater sales? You are making numbers up... I also hate fanboyism and you just gave yourself away as being a Sony **** s****r with this garbage you have put up here.... next time doe some research before making s**t up...
jabocsnake123Mar 22, 2006
yeah this is lame. A small company that no one knows about who submited some lame patent gets to sue everyone. way to go america! I think I am going to register some patents and copy rights in the hopes of getting rich off of lawsuits some day! Maybe sony can find ways to counter sue and make them go under like they did with bleem. I don't agree with the tactic but this company is scum if you ask me. people talk like they are an american hero or something when they are just as bad as sony except they are an american company!