markshuttleworth.com — Mark Shuttleworth says he's "pleased to see John Vivirito announcing a desktop-effects team for Ubuntu, that will focus on the integration of 3D technology into the desktop like Xgl, Compiz and AIGLX."
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smartssaSep 11, 2006
Excellent description. Thanks!
vinbobSep 11, 2006
@trogdoor"AIGLX only works with open source drivers"ATI & Nvidia are both working to include AIGLX functionality in their drivers, so it's just a matter of time. Nvidia has stated that they will only work on driver support for AIGLX.Once AIGLX driver support gets going, it's likely that XGL will be redundant as XGL requires your system to run 2 X-servers which as you can imagine is pretty inefficient compared to running just Xorg 7 with a GLX extension.Therefore XGL is unlikely to be a "common customization" once AIGLX support becomes default, it's just a working stopgap until then.To understand further here's a link with some nice diagrams ---> <a class="user" href="http://principe.homelinux.net/">http://principe.homelinux.net/</a>
cogsprocketSep 11, 2006
Why're you getting all upset?They say there's no insult like the truth. Why is it when someone points out a valid argument like Windows not using a vector-based windows manager and you're up in arms. I don't have to defend Linux. It's not even my primary OS. What I do feel the need to do is point out that what we're discussing here is not a Windows knock-off. What we're discussing is an area where Windows is completely behind. I can't really blame Microsoft by any means, however. With the userbase MS has to support it's difficult to ensure that this sort of vector-based system would work for the majority of systems. As an example, you should look at the number of Linux users who are either unable to get a rendering engine and composite manager to function to begin with, let alone use it for over metacity by any means.No sir, what your problem seems to be is not that Linux users have to defend their "baby" but that you can't take the fact that you've been caught making a statement without basing it on solid fact
calpatersonSep 11, 2006
These kind of suggestions are part of the problem when you encourage people to refer to an entire family of operating systems with the name of a single piece of software they all share.Debian and Gentoo are _not the same thing_. The reason we have more than one package manager is the situation calls for it. Do you think hundredsof *volunteers* go out and intentionally rewrite the same feature many times over.If you can't understand the need for different packing systems: please don't make comments.
Closed AccountSep 11, 2006
It already is that easy. Use Automatix Bleeder. <a class="user" href="http://getautomatix.com/wiki/index.php?title=Automatix_Bleeder">http://getautomatix.com/wiki/index.php?title=Automatix_Bleeder</a>P.S. apt-get isn't garbage. There wouldn't be Ubuntu without it.
randomguysteveSep 11, 2006
Except its a pain to get onto a partition, a pain to set up on systems with less than 256 megs of ram, and a pain to get it to the point where its not a pain to use.The regular users should not have to know about extended universes just to get some movies or music to play.
arramolSep 11, 2006
"Except its a pain to get onto a partition, a pain to set up on systems with less than 256 megs of ram, and a pain to get it to the point where its not a pain to use."Have you tried installing Dapper? You have the option to tell it how much space to use and let it take care of partitioning automatically. Having less than 256 megs of RAM wipes out nearly every OS in use today, although I've seen Ubuntu use as little as 130. I've seen people try to run XP with 128...it isn't pretty. As for "a pain to get it to the point where it's not a pain to use," what are you even talking about? Again, you run EasyUbuntu and it takes care of graphics drivers, media codecs, etc. without having to mess with extended universe at all. As for software, OpenOffice and Firefox come bundled, and Synaptic is the best way to get software I've ever seen. Sure, there are things that won't run natively on Ubuntu, but if we're talking about the average user who just wants to check e-mail and play Solitaire, what difference does it make?
gmorganSep 13, 2006
Most Linux dev work that must be posted on a webpage will be done in a manner that can be easily read on Links via a terminal. It's the same with most kernel development. In the entire Linux kernel code base there are very few if any statements longer than 80 columns wide and most functions are limited to 48 lines so they fit on 2 terminal screens.Not that everyone is mad and does everything in the terminal it's just some do so its important to cater to them. Nothing is gained by doing things with ridiculous levels of flash. Hard text is usually enough to convey the information.
gmorganSep 13, 2006
Ubuntu stories get to the top because people like Ubuntu. The point of Digg.
jman8888Sep 17, 2006
I think its a good idea. good to go against vista. I just think it needs to just be a option.