theseminal.com— The 1984-esque Safety Act would require ISPs to record all users’ surfing activity, IM conversations and email traffic indefinitely. Can anyone explain how this is constitutional?
Feb 12, 2007View in Crawl 4
I wish to propose the creation of the Open Source Spook Initiative (OSSI). Where by we allow the spooks to spook whomever they choose whenever they choose with one small caveat. They open source the technology allowing an enabling the citizens to also spook both their neighbors as well as the spooks themselves.In this way, all knowledge would be public knowledge. Those who aim ill will upon their brothers will be outed. Those who wish to conspire against their government will be outed. Those, in the government, who wish to conspire against our nations citizens will be outed. Through a successful implementation of the OSSI, all topics will be debated, ad nauseum, across the open American forum.
Actually, now that I think about it. This could be a good thing.First everyone would be paranoid, which would raise the demand for encryption between clients. Eventually encryption would be adopted as standards.Now think of e-mail, if you simply deny mail from someone who's key you don't have, you don't get spam, and the spammers will have to give up unless they can convince everyone to add their public key.
Just wanted to practice my GWB speech writing real quick:"Good evening. Today, we are on the eve of a brand new America. An America where child pornographers and terrorists can no longer conspire right under our noses. An America where our children cannot be taken advantage of by these peddlers of deceit.Our savior comes in the form of the SAFETY bill, a bill that gives us much needed visibility into the vast network of terror.You will hear loud objections to this bill, with claims about the constitution and the bill of rights. I give you my assurance, the American people, that the only ones who object are the ones with something to hide. These are the neo-terrorists and child pornographers who are threatening our children's lives. They must be stopped at all costs, or our children's future is at stake.Together, we will beat this menace. Thank you."What's even scarier is that I could honestly hear him saying that in my head. What a wonderful time it is to be a US citizen..
"If the data's being gathered, but nobody's looking at it, does it count as spying?"Yes.If I download child porn, but I don't look at it, is it still illegal?Yes. Same thing.
fantasticflanFeb 13, 2007
Can anyone explain how this is feasible?
bigturnsFeb 13, 2007
I wish to propose the creation of the Open Source Spook Initiative (OSSI). Where by we allow the spooks to spook whomever they choose whenever they choose with one small caveat. They open source the technology allowing an enabling the citizens to also spook both their neighbors as well as the spooks themselves.In this way, all knowledge would be public knowledge. Those who aim ill will upon their brothers will be outed. Those who wish to conspire against their government will be outed. Those, in the government, who wish to conspire against our nations citizens will be outed. Through a successful implementation of the OSSI, all topics will be debated, ad nauseum, across the open American forum.
leejunfanFeb 13, 2007
Actually, now that I think about it. This could be a good thing.First everyone would be paranoid, which would raise the demand for encryption between clients. Eventually encryption would be adopted as standards.Now think of e-mail, if you simply deny mail from someone who's key you don't have, you don't get spam, and the spammers will have to give up unless they can convince everyone to add their public key.
deepblFeb 13, 2007
Just wanted to practice my GWB speech writing real quick:"Good evening. Today, we are on the eve of a brand new America. An America where child pornographers and terrorists can no longer conspire right under our noses. An America where our children cannot be taken advantage of by these peddlers of deceit.Our savior comes in the form of the SAFETY bill, a bill that gives us much needed visibility into the vast network of terror.You will hear loud objections to this bill, with claims about the constitution and the bill of rights. I give you my assurance, the American people, that the only ones who object are the ones with something to hide. These are the neo-terrorists and child pornographers who are threatening our children's lives. They must be stopped at all costs, or our children's future is at stake.Together, we will beat this menace. Thank you."What's even scarier is that I could honestly hear him saying that in my head. What a wonderful time it is to be a US citizen..
fatbyjhnsnFeb 13, 2007
It also says that the Attorney General can choose what info the ISPs need to collect. I don't want that too happen and neither should you.
metaforeFeb 14, 2007
tor on.
chagrinriddleFeb 14, 2007
"If the data's being gathered, but nobody's looking at it, does it count as spying?"Yes.If I download child porn, but I don't look at it, is it still illegal?Yes. Same thing.