Yeah I love how immoratality automatically equates to over population. Nice assumption.And If god meant us to fly he would have given us wings. Oh wait we fly all over the place all the time. Take that nature. You and your natural laws that we have learned to manipulate with our natural brains.
"I just don't think man can manage to successfully augment himself without nature's intervention."What the hell does that mean? Are you purposely choosing to forget that we are natural, that every thing we do and make is natural? A skyscraper is as natural as a termite mound. Both are artefacts created by living natural organisms. Yeah one is "man made" and the other is "termite made", but both are still natural.
Oh, why is overpopulation sure to follow?Can I say "In an ethical sound and free world where immortality exists, frogs are sure to follow"? I really dont see where it follows the premise. What is your chain of reasoning?This is how it works."Given that a is greater than b, it follows that b is less than a"
@Charlemange: If those futurists are right then the turning off/on of some genes which will give us twice our current lifespan would be the equivalent of eliminating infancy mortality. I mean why we should eliminate infancy mortality, haven't already we done so? I don't think it represents any of a problem that we'll get greater lifespans through other means
@Bloodwine: What are you talking about? You must be out of reality or a religious wacko. What do you think we are? Someone sent us, to dominate this earth? f**k no, we are made from this world, just like earth was made from it, just like a galaxy also did so. How exactly are our achievements less natural than a supernova? We are conscious, so we are special, that's what you think, ah? You'll be really surprised if we'll actually manage to emulate consciousness, we are not special, we are just the most complex pack of algorithms we know of in this world while being us, give us a subjective look of the world, it makes us the center of the universe but we are not, we're just a part of it. Oh, OK, due to our subjectiveness we're also the center of the 'verse, but that doesn't mean that it will stop the objective universe to manifest itself through ourselves.
Another Book You Might LikeYou should check out 2 books by Travis S. Taylor - Warp Speed, and it's sequal The Quantum Connection... The second is better than the first, but you really need to read the first to be setup for the story in the second. Loads of good scifi and nanotech stuff. The best part about both of the books is everything they do is actually plausible. The author is a physicist and aerospace engineer :)
kurtu5Aug 30, 2006
Yeah I love how immoratality automatically equates to over population. Nice assumption.And If god meant us to fly he would have given us wings. Oh wait we fly all over the place all the time. Take that nature. You and your natural laws that we have learned to manipulate with our natural brains.
kurtu5Aug 30, 2006
"I just don't think man can manage to successfully augment himself without nature's intervention."What the hell does that mean? Are you purposely choosing to forget that we are natural, that every thing we do and make is natural? A skyscraper is as natural as a termite mound. Both are artefacts created by living natural organisms. Yeah one is "man made" and the other is "termite made", but both are still natural.
kurtu5Aug 30, 2006
Oh, why is overpopulation sure to follow?Can I say "In an ethical sound and free world where immortality exists, frogs are sure to follow"? I really dont see where it follows the premise. What is your chain of reasoning?This is how it works."Given that a is greater than b, it follows that b is less than a"
stevethegreatAug 31, 2006
@Charlemange: If those futurists are right then the turning off/on of some genes which will give us twice our current lifespan would be the equivalent of eliminating infancy mortality. I mean why we should eliminate infancy mortality, haven't already we done so? I don't think it represents any of a problem that we'll get greater lifespans through other means
stevethegreatAug 31, 2006
@Bloodwine: What are you talking about? You must be out of reality or a religious wacko. What do you think we are? Someone sent us, to dominate this earth? f**k no, we are made from this world, just like earth was made from it, just like a galaxy also did so. How exactly are our achievements less natural than a supernova? We are conscious, so we are special, that's what you think, ah? You'll be really surprised if we'll actually manage to emulate consciousness, we are not special, we are just the most complex pack of algorithms we know of in this world while being us, give us a subjective look of the world, it makes us the center of the universe but we are not, we're just a part of it. Oh, OK, due to our subjectiveness we're also the center of the 'verse, but that doesn't mean that it will stop the objective universe to manifest itself through ourselves.
larchoyeAug 31, 2006
Another Book You Might LikeYou should check out 2 books by Travis S. Taylor - Warp Speed, and it's sequal The Quantum Connection... The second is better than the first, but you really need to read the first to be setup for the story in the second. Loads of good scifi and nanotech stuff. The best part about both of the books is everything they do is actually plausible. The author is a physicist and aerospace engineer :)
noctuDec 22, 2007
I hope to see the singularity!<a class="user" href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hu7W0QoW7OM">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hu7W0QoW7OM</a>