nytimes.com — “We’ve known this is on the horizon for many years, but we were able to hold it off with George Bush. The idea that we might find ourselves fighting with the Obama administration over these powers is really stunning.”
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bigstinkguideMay 21, 2009
That's about the size of it. Australian, David Hicks was held in Gitmo for about 5 years and when finally charged, he entered a guilty plea just to get back home even though that meant serving another prison sentence when he arrived.His Gitmo charge was "material support for terrorism", prosecution could elaborate any less vaguely than that. At one time, searching for something to charge him with, they alleged he had done a reconnaissance of the American Embassy in Afghanistan for the Taliban, problem was that particular embassy didn't actually exist till some years after time of said crime (looking at a building).
Closed AccountMay 21, 2009
"Obama Is Said to Consider Preventive Detention Plan"Just let that sink in. Is Obama REALLY the anti-Bush or just the next neocon? Tell me how this policy distinguishes Obama from Bush?
charlie6969May 21, 2009
Actually, taking Bush and doing most of his terrible things, but OPENLY IS change. But, NOT change I can believe in.Most of the problems we have right now are completely based in the fact that Obama is being more transparent about things, but instead of that helping; it is just showing the corruption and lawlessness more openly. Being open is a good start. Don't get me wrong; it is still better than this stuff going on and us not knowing about it. We might be happier not knowing, but wrong is wrong.Until those in power, and that includes the HIGHEST of lawbreakers, are made to pay for their crimes the same as any regular citizen; we won't trust our Government or those in financial power; nor should we.
mrxfromplanetxMay 21, 2009
From the page: "Human rights advocates are growing deeply uneasy with Mr. Obama?s stance on these issues, especially his recent move to block the release of photographs showing abuse of detainees, and his announcement that he is willing to try terrorism suspects in military commissions ? a concept he criticized bitterly as a presidential candidate. "