sportsillustrated.cnn.com— The NFL has nixed a church's plans to use a wall projector to show the Colts-Bears Super Bowl game, saying it would violate copyright laws.
Feb 1, 2007View in Crawl 4
It seems your Church can do whatever they want as long as they don't advertise in such a way that the NFL Nazis can easily find out about the function.
This is so lame, I've lost some respect for the NFL. Take me back to the days when there were no F16's overheard during the game and the NFL were'nt pricks about how people watched the game..
You can afford a 72" DLP, yet feel the need to charge your 'friends' for c**ktail weenies? Are you sure you don't have that backwards, and are instead paying 'friends' just to show up?
@arramol"Backing down is actually the more Biblical attitude..."I have to disagree with you there. Meekness is strength under control, not passivity. Jesus was not the type to ever back down from the truth, and he never taught others to do it, either. Instead, he told us to stand up for truth, represent the oppressed, and love our enemies. He is speaking provocatively in Matt. 5 to make a very firm, counter-culture point that he wants his disciples to do a 180? turn away from society's notions of vengeance (He says it explicitly a mere 3 verses later then what you quoted..."you have heard 'hate your enemy,' but i say...").Look at how Christ lived his life. Did he turn away from controversy? He never ducked confrontation with cultural leaders or even his best friends. He actively engaged in dealing with people and issues that were forbidden, until the religious establishment whispered amongst themselves rumors of debauchery, drunkenness, homosexuality, paganism...they even accused him of being Satan incarnate. He shook people's complacency to the point where they decided to kill him on the spot (more than once prior to his final execution). Jesus never taught His disciples to back down, he taught them to stand for the truth while looking at the world with the loving eyes of his Father.Sure, people do some evil things in the name of Jesus, but what would it look like for Christians to really live like he did? I'd expect them to be the first in line to fight against social injustices, the environment, global poverty, the AIDS pandemic. I'd expect them to positively ooze with the love of God, in such a way that nobody could come in contact with them and not notice a serious life-giving change. I'd expect them to silence critics with action, to the point where nobody in their right mind could consider religion to be just another money-grabbing scam. And, yes, I'd expect them to stand up to any interests that would replace our civil liberties with corporate greed.But what do I know? I'm just another dumb Colts fan.
I wondered just how the NFL would enforce this "request" , without suing the church, so I called the FCC-- Pretty interesting-- PLEASE NOTE: My church singles group is planning on having a party and watching the game on two big screens-- I wanted to call the FCC to see if there was any laws that we would be breaking as the Bible does command "the church" (Christians) to obey the laws of the land-- Anyways... They wondered the same thing considering that they are the "enforcers" of America’s airwaves-- The FCC lady that I talked to had to confer with her supervisor-- She then asked if we were going to charge people to see the game-- No-- She said she had never heard of this law and wondered (along with me) who made the law—The NFL? I don't think that the NFL can make laws so... The FCC asked us if we were going to tape the game and show it later? Again NO—The "FCC lady" that I talked to also suggested the reporter check his facts-- I would suggest the same thing-- He might want to call the FCC as it would be a GREAT follow up story-- The big ??? Would the NFL have a leg to stand on if they tried to sue a church, group, etc. for showing the Super Bowl on TVs bigger than 55 inches etc.—How would they plan to enforce “their” law otherwise?I would like to know, does the NFL plan to sue all churches, groups, families, and bars (that don't pay the "fair) that show the game on any TV bigger that 55 inches? Good luck! I am guessing that all the church would have to do is ask why they are discriminating against them-- I also wonder just what the FCC would do— May I suggest that you also call the FCC for their comments and send an email to "The Indianapolis Star" paper asking them to do a follow up story-- God Bless and thanks for your time—Also to check out just what motivates Tony and Lovie check out:(www.BeyondTheUltimate.org)
I'm watching the Gloria Estefan pregame right now and THIS is the lowest the NFL has ever gone. That church lucked out and avoided showing their flock the most flamboyant gay recruitment tool I've seen.
baseballpmFeb 1, 2007
ol gody is going to be one upset football fan
coolwindFeb 2, 2007
It seems your Church can do whatever they want as long as they don't advertise in such a way that the NFL Nazis can easily find out about the function.
tekoverrideFeb 2, 2007
I don't get it...how does the nfl find out about parties like this? honestly.The church must have done something dumb to get their party shutdown
dubledFeb 2, 2007
This is so lame, I've lost some respect for the NFL. Take me back to the days when there were no F16's overheard during the game and the NFL were'nt pricks about how people watched the game..
Closed AccountFeb 2, 2007
You can afford a 72" DLP, yet feel the need to charge your 'friends' for c**ktail weenies? Are you sure you don't have that backwards, and are instead paying 'friends' just to show up?
superjermsFeb 2, 2007
@arramol"Backing down is actually the more Biblical attitude..."I have to disagree with you there. Meekness is strength under control, not passivity. Jesus was not the type to ever back down from the truth, and he never taught others to do it, either. Instead, he told us to stand up for truth, represent the oppressed, and love our enemies. He is speaking provocatively in Matt. 5 to make a very firm, counter-culture point that he wants his disciples to do a 180? turn away from society's notions of vengeance (He says it explicitly a mere 3 verses later then what you quoted..."you have heard 'hate your enemy,' but i say...").Look at how Christ lived his life. Did he turn away from controversy? He never ducked confrontation with cultural leaders or even his best friends. He actively engaged in dealing with people and issues that were forbidden, until the religious establishment whispered amongst themselves rumors of debauchery, drunkenness, homosexuality, paganism...they even accused him of being Satan incarnate. He shook people's complacency to the point where they decided to kill him on the spot (more than once prior to his final execution). Jesus never taught His disciples to back down, he taught them to stand for the truth while looking at the world with the loving eyes of his Father.Sure, people do some evil things in the name of Jesus, but what would it look like for Christians to really live like he did? I'd expect them to be the first in line to fight against social injustices, the environment, global poverty, the AIDS pandemic. I'd expect them to positively ooze with the love of God, in such a way that nobody could come in contact with them and not notice a serious life-giving change. I'd expect them to silence critics with action, to the point where nobody in their right mind could consider religion to be just another money-grabbing scam. And, yes, I'd expect them to stand up to any interests that would replace our civil liberties with corporate greed.But what do I know? I'm just another dumb Colts fan.
kkp1983Feb 3, 2007
I wondered just how the NFL would enforce this "request" , without suing the church, so I called the FCC-- Pretty interesting-- PLEASE NOTE: My church singles group is planning on having a party and watching the game on two big screens-- I wanted to call the FCC to see if there was any laws that we would be breaking as the Bible does command "the church" (Christians) to obey the laws of the land-- Anyways... They wondered the same thing considering that they are the "enforcers" of America’s airwaves-- The FCC lady that I talked to had to confer with her supervisor-- She then asked if we were going to charge people to see the game-- No-- She said she had never heard of this law and wondered (along with me) who made the law—The NFL? I don't think that the NFL can make laws so... The FCC asked us if we were going to tape the game and show it later? Again NO—The "FCC lady" that I talked to also suggested the reporter check his facts-- I would suggest the same thing-- He might want to call the FCC as it would be a GREAT follow up story-- The big ??? Would the NFL have a leg to stand on if they tried to sue a church, group, etc. for showing the Super Bowl on TVs bigger than 55 inches etc.—How would they plan to enforce “their” law otherwise?I would like to know, does the NFL plan to sue all churches, groups, families, and bars (that don't pay the "fair) that show the game on any TV bigger that 55 inches? Good luck! I am guessing that all the church would have to do is ask why they are discriminating against them-- I also wonder just what the FCC would do— May I suggest that you also call the FCC for their comments and send an email to "The Indianapolis Star" paper asking them to do a follow up story-- God Bless and thanks for your time—Also to check out just what motivates Tony and Lovie check out:(www.BeyondTheUltimate.org)
rossewidgeFeb 4, 2007
I'm watching the Gloria Estefan pregame right now and THIS is the lowest the NFL has ever gone. That church lucked out and avoided showing their flock the most flamboyant gay recruitment tool I've seen.