youtube.com — Muslims on YouTube have formed several groups where users and videos that criticize Islam (which they define as "Hate Speech") are listed and mass-flagged as abuse. YouTube seems to remove videos and sometimes even ban users automatically. Muslims claim that they only flag videos that have violated YouTube's TOS, but this has been been proven false
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worbdFeb 25, 2007Submitter
The true Islam? Says who?Muslims have a PR problem. They need to stop being outraged when someone draws Muhammed drawings, and start being outraged when someone blows people up in the name of their religion. Where are the mass-gatherings to condemn Muslim terrorism? They were all over the place because of a few drawings!
5hop4orceFeb 25, 2007
Tsuyoi, I will send you a check for $100 if you can prove that a) homosexuals don't go to Hell and b) God doesn't punish the nations who turn away from Him. It's written clearly in the Bible, which Fred Phelps has read about 1,000 times more than you (if you have even read the Bible yourself).You want to see cherry picking? Turn your eyes to the moderate Christians who worship sweeping platitudes about how "God is love" and "Jesus forgives all" because they read a FEW lines in the New Testament that made them feel all warm inside. God is NOT love. Jesus does NOT forgive all. Moderate Christians are simply deluding themselves either as a defense mechanism or as a justification for their social activities, i.e., "I like getting together on Sundays to have cake, so I'll pretend to believe in the Bible." They are not living like people who fear an almighty God and His judgment.
tsuyoiFeb 27, 2007
"Tsuyoi, I will send you a check for $100 if you can prove that a) homosexuals don't go to Hell and b) God doesn't punish the nations who turn away from Him."Prove to me first that there is a god, a hell, that the christian bible represents the intent of god, and that your interpretation of the bible is the correct one. You build you argument on an outrageous number of assumptions that cannot be proven. You ask us to hate and discrimintate against people based on your assumptions. The burden of proof is on you since you are the one asking us to act on your beliefs.My assumption is that we should treat all people with respect. Or at least with as much respect as they give us.
5hop4orceFeb 27, 2007
"Prove to me first that there is a god, a hell, that the christian bible represents the intent of god..."Prove to me first that Huck Finn was a real person, that he piloted a raft on the Mississippi River, and that the Adventures of Huckleberry Finn represent what ACTUALLY happened. Only then will I acknowledge that my interpretation of that novel is incorrect."You build you argument on an outrageous number of assumptions that cannot be proven."No, I didn't. You built your STRAWMAN argument on an outrageous number of assumptions that cannot be proven."You ask us to hate and discrimintate against people based on your assumptions."No, I don't. Again, you're making s**t up, probably due to your utter inability to argue the facts."The burden of proof is on you since you are the one asking us to act on your beliefs."The burden of proof is on you since you are the one who made an incorrect claim, which I called you on. Either provide evidence that the Bible does not condemn homosexuals or stop making the claim."My assumption is that we should treat all people with respect. Or at least with as much respect as they give us."Congratulations for you. That has nothing to do with the issue at hand.
5hop4orceFeb 27, 2007
Projection is not a good comeback. It's like "I'm rubber--you're glue," only more cliched."You are asking me to make a proof based on things you have assumed..."Again, no, I am not. We are TALKING ABOUT the Bible. That was established. Read in context."It appears you take them on faith..."Again, no, I do not. You want to talk about PROJECTION?"You have also show allegiance to the church Fred Phelps heads."No, I have not. I have stated that Fred Phelps is right about his religion."You don't understand what a strawman argument is and you have incorrectly accused me of using one."Okay, you're a dumb f**k. You are a dumb f**k! Re-read your comments. Re-read my comments. Print them all out and take them to a college professor or high school English teacher who can help you understand the flow of this conversation."I have put a lot of thought into this response and it is free of malice and personal attacks."You just called me a Fundamentalist Christian and a bigot, you dumb f**k! How is that free of personal attacks?!GodDAMN...
5hop4orceFeb 27, 2007
ARGUMENT ANALYSIS: PART THREEIt's really just more of the same, and it always will be when dealing with people like Tsuyoi. They don't have rational reasons for believing the things they believe; they simply "feel" that something "should" be true, and so they claim that it is true, and then they lash out at people who call them on their false statements.This guy--at any step in the process--could have easily clicked on my username and looked through my comment history. That would have brought up so many anti-religious comments that any notion of my being the Christian Fundamentalist bogeyman he projected onto me would have evaporated. By the same token, I could have clicked on his username--and I DID click on his username--and determined that he's exactly the sort of wishy-washy, mealy-mouthed, pseudo-religious, liberal scumbag who makes the sort of comments he makes on a regular basis.CLAIM: I have offered genuine questions and analysis.COUNTER-CLAIM: No, you have offered bulls**t and DODGED questions and analysis.I'll close with this bit of hard-won knowledge: Anybody who brings up "projection" in an Internet argument is a dumbass and is probably the most projecting motherf**ker on the planet.
lordvingFeb 27, 2007
@AussieNickMuslims aren't a race
lebermacMar 1, 2007
Ah yes, Islam, the religion of peace.If the majority of Muslims (who claim to not support the wackos) don't say something quick, they may end up allowing their entire religion to be defined by these extremist types.Oops... too late.
worbdMar 1, 2007Submitter
FYI, the thread was not removed by YouTube, but by the group owner.However, there is no question about it: videos criticizing Islam are being censored. Well, Atheists in general.
grindingsaltMar 30, 2007
Allah is apparently powerless in the world... he can only convince the feeble minded to flamboyantly commit a combo suicide-murder with vague promises with poor mormonesque-math* of orgiastic tryst in the afterlife. Allah, after all, was the one who convinced Mohamed his deviant sexual interest in young girls was acceptable, and that its a great policy to beat women who speak ill of men, or even object to beatingsAllah is awesome!Questioning Allah or the Koran is forbidden... because Allah cannot interact with the world in anyway. (psst: Allah is Satan's new pen name).The more you know about Allah the better it gets.... * Huband's wives live on the husbands planet in the afterlife. Daughters live on the father's planet in the afterlife. Mormons have no concept of bilocation... just really bad math.
grindingsaltMar 30, 2007
<a class="user" href="http://digg.com/world_news/Allah_is_powerless_because_Allah_is_Satan">http://digg.com/world_news/Allah_is_powerless_because_Allah_is_Satan</a>
pattyciciNov 30, 2007
a muslim friend told me that he was a member of group at YOUTUBE.he declared nobody can criticize their religion or else....he posted his views at the sitemuslimonly com/i/joinforfree
romckriMay 10, 2008
Well, we have it out of context…we have taken the book out of context…what is the context then my friend? Most of us don't plan to (ever) read this book because we don't like fiction but you can share your views and the proper context for us to evaluate.You made the statement that its out of context so you go ahead and state the context and lets see if you actually know what you are talking about.
wendykayeMar 16, 2009
Hear hear! And AMEN to that!Jesus is LORD.Peace.
endeuarabiaMar 21, 2009
They also along with the UK government and Church of extinction seek to censor and erode all British culture. BUt many are in teh way on this one