landonf.bikemonkey.org— Looks like someone's out to fix the bugs released by the month of apple bugs. The first one is already fixed!
Jan 2, 2007View in Crawl 4
This is exactly why they are releasing the bugs. jaredvolkl makes a good point, but finding bugs and fixing them is more of a opensource principal than an awareness campaign.
"My Windows XP computer is both easy to use and has never crashed in four years."mine has a lot of times and I have been virus infected, spyware infected and all that crap. + it hangs sometimes and I hate the "Not Responding" thing
"you are talking about Apple-related forums. The true arrogance from Mac users shows up when they interact with the rest of the world, like here on Digg."Then why don't you just avoid the Apple stories instead of adding fuel to the fire? Apple users have found a home here. Kevin likes Apple and has created it's own section. Apple users come here and digg stories about Apple and discuss them. As far as stories about Windows or the Zune, it's unfair to assume that people that put them down are Apple users unless they state they are. There are many Linux users that dislike Microsoft. There are many Creative fans that dislike the iPod and Zune, etc.As far as which side of the MS vs Apple "war" is right, Apple fanboys in general deride products. Windows fanboys deride other people. I know which side I'd rather be on.
"you have to admit that the guy is being a douchebag."when similar people do the same on non-apple platforms he's every mac fanboy's hero. Learn to take your own fricken medicine. as for the month of bugs author not being a security expert... well, to come up with 31 individual, unique security flaws in an OS certainly strikes me as the work of someone who IS an expert.back on topic. Do you not think it's unwise to be replacing system files with files generated by some no-body on a random blog online? Personally i do.
Naio,Way to add absolutely nothing to the thread, but that seems what you're best at.Rufio, have you tried the suggestions as listed in the links you posted? I doubt the problem is with your router since you have other machines that are working without issues. Very carefully check your MacBook's network settings as compared with the settings for your router. Another thing to check is to make sure your password is correct. If you have your wireless router set to broadcast, the MacBook should at least see the router, but if your password is incorrect you won't be able to connect. You can check your password by going to username/applications/utilities/keychain or maybe just applications/utilities/keychain depending on how you have your machine set-up. Doubleclick Keychain and find the one pertaining to router or network password. Double click it and enter your admin password to see it.If neither of these help, you could just have a bad Airport card in your MacBook and your only other recourse may be to go to a local Apple Store (if there is one nearby) and have them check it out. Make sure you make an appointment as they will probably be very busy just after the holiday season. Help that helps and good luck.
As I see it, there are 2 kinds of insecurity:Insecurity due to human error is one. Buffer overflows are an example of this kind of insecurity. All OS's have them because all humans are prone to error. I tend to think that Windows may offer more opportunities for error. It's made of older code and design concepts and appears to me much more disorganised than OS X. Just look at the directory structure of a fresh Windows install...what a jumbled mess (in comparison to OS X...why is calc.exe in System32, not Program Files??).Then there is the OS security model. I believe OS X to be far superior in this area. It's based off of BSD which is practically built from the ground up with security as an important factor. Enough said.
@quuxly - <a class="user" href="http://bugreport.apple.com/">http://bugreport.apple.com/</a>While it is very easy to submit a bug on bugreport.apple.com, I have found the results less than satisfying. I have several Problem IDs/Sonars currently open that seem to be getting very little attention from the folks at Apple. Most directly involve Framework.Security. And all have been open for several months now (the oldest over a year).Only one is a "security hole" (but nothing that would cause you to loose all your data or give up complete control of the system), but the others are substantial memory leaks that will cripple the entire OS with enough iterations (around 10,000 iterations of a particular combination API calls will do). I doubt any could be patched by 3rd party developers, as they are all integrated parts of the OS.I don't think I'd reveal any details or the code to exploit them, but I can definitely see the frustration in finding problems and not getting results. Maybe there are only a few of us that have run into these types of issues, I don't know.
gaijintendoJan 3, 2007
This is exactly why they are releasing the bugs. jaredvolkl makes a good point, but finding bugs and fixing them is more of a opensource principal than an awareness campaign.
2shaeJan 3, 2007
"My Windows XP computer is both easy to use and has never crashed in four years."mine has a lot of times and I have been virus infected, spyware infected and all that crap. + it hangs sometimes and I hate the "Not Responding" thing
daffyduckJan 3, 2007
"you are talking about Apple-related forums. The true arrogance from Mac users shows up when they interact with the rest of the world, like here on Digg."Then why don't you just avoid the Apple stories instead of adding fuel to the fire? Apple users have found a home here. Kevin likes Apple and has created it's own section. Apple users come here and digg stories about Apple and discuss them. As far as stories about Windows or the Zune, it's unfair to assume that people that put them down are Apple users unless they state they are. There are many Linux users that dislike Microsoft. There are many Creative fans that dislike the iPod and Zune, etc.As far as which side of the MS vs Apple "war" is right, Apple fanboys in general deride products. Windows fanboys deride other people. I know which side I'd rather be on.
jrbrewinJan 3, 2007
"you have to admit that the guy is being a douchebag."when similar people do the same on non-apple platforms he's every mac fanboy's hero. Learn to take your own fricken medicine. as for the month of bugs author not being a security expert... well, to come up with 31 individual, unique security flaws in an OS certainly strikes me as the work of someone who IS an expert.back on topic. Do you not think it's unwise to be replacing system files with files generated by some no-body on a random blog online? Personally i do.
halbsureJan 3, 2007
Daffy, I don't want to alarm you but you have some unused icons on your desktop. Would you like some help with that?
macparrotJan 3, 2007
Naio,Way to add absolutely nothing to the thread, but that seems what you're best at.Rufio, have you tried the suggestions as listed in the links you posted? I doubt the problem is with your router since you have other machines that are working without issues. Very carefully check your MacBook's network settings as compared with the settings for your router. Another thing to check is to make sure your password is correct. If you have your wireless router set to broadcast, the MacBook should at least see the router, but if your password is incorrect you won't be able to connect. You can check your password by going to username/applications/utilities/keychain or maybe just applications/utilities/keychain depending on how you have your machine set-up. Doubleclick Keychain and find the one pertaining to router or network password. Double click it and enter your admin password to see it.If neither of these help, you could just have a bad Airport card in your MacBook and your only other recourse may be to go to a local Apple Store (if there is one nearby) and have them check it out. Make sure you make an appointment as they will probably be very busy just after the holiday season. Help that helps and good luck.
daffyduckJan 3, 2007
As I see it, there are 2 kinds of insecurity:Insecurity due to human error is one. Buffer overflows are an example of this kind of insecurity. All OS's have them because all humans are prone to error. I tend to think that Windows may offer more opportunities for error. It's made of older code and design concepts and appears to me much more disorganised than OS X. Just look at the directory structure of a fresh Windows install...what a jumbled mess (in comparison to OS X...why is calc.exe in System32, not Program Files??).Then there is the OS security model. I believe OS X to be far superior in this area. It's based off of BSD which is practically built from the ground up with security as an important factor. Enough said.
kevdotbadgerJan 3, 2007
Far from a moron. Nice thought though.
cryptofreekJan 3, 2007
@quuxly - <a class="user" href="http://bugreport.apple.com/">http://bugreport.apple.com/</a>While it is very easy to submit a bug on bugreport.apple.com, I have found the results less than satisfying. I have several Problem IDs/Sonars currently open that seem to be getting very little attention from the folks at Apple. Most directly involve Framework.Security. And all have been open for several months now (the oldest over a year).Only one is a "security hole" (but nothing that would cause you to loose all your data or give up complete control of the system), but the others are substantial memory leaks that will cripple the entire OS with enough iterations (around 10,000 iterations of a particular combination API calls will do). I doubt any could be patched by 3rd party developers, as they are all integrated parts of the OS.I don't think I'd reveal any details or the code to exploit them, but I can definitely see the frustration in finding problems and not getting results. Maybe there are only a few of us that have run into these types of issues, I don't know.
t3hxJan 4, 2007
Sounds a little like the wifi driver flaw...