pewglobal.org — A recent study by Pew Research found little enthusiasm for the extremist Islamic organizations Hamas and Hezbollah in the Muslim world. Apparently, Palestinians are more likely to give Hamas a negative (52%) than a positive (44%) rating. Looking at Muslim leaders including Ahmadinejad, most are not highly rated by Muslims.
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zenmojoFeb 9, 2010
Makes you wonder why we're still in Iraq and what the average American thinks about civilian casualties in Afghanistan.Just saying, we can throw out "but these people still do bad things and have support from people" all day long but unless we can actually codify that into a standard doctrine of belief we can't really give it much emphasis.
wpi97Feb 9, 2010
@stillhateyouBy the way, I like it how you went from "You have to go back 2000 years before you can make that claim" to "Interesting you can only go back to the 1800s". I guess there is just no pleasing you.
devilclownFeb 9, 2010
Hate to make a blanket statement, but according to this poll the people of Turkey are pretty cool.
stillhateyouFeb 9, 2010
I haven't rephrased my original point at all. I still maintain that the Israelis threw the Palestinians out of their homes to make room for their nation and that the Palestinians are reasonably pissed off at that(go ahead, read my original post). I haven't qualified my point at all either. People have built up straw men against my original argument such as the fact that there have been Jews in Israel all along, which is entirely beside the point.Further, no one has taught me anything about history here. The only thing they've done is brought up irrelevant little factoids that they found on Wikipedia, none of which relate to Palestinians being drive from their homes.
tzvika613Feb 9, 2010
This "little factoid" from wpi97 certainly relates to your assertion of "Palestinians being driven from their homes." " Another fact is that no Arabs were displaced as a result of Jewish immigration into the Land of Israel, until the War of Independence of 1948, when the armies of 5 Arab states aided by local Arab militia attacked the newly declared Israel. During and after the war, however, 750,000 Arabs and 900,000 Jews became refugees. Think about that one for a bit. "If you have a dipute with that "factoid" state what your dispute is - but saying "The only thing people have done is brought up irrelevant little factoids that they found on Wikipedia, none of which relate to Palestinians being drive from their homes." is disingenuous.
countess666Feb 9, 2010
"Follow the links. Look at the pictures. Pay attention to the numbers of people killed and maimed, especially to how many of them were children."all im seeing is the same s**t israel pulls.try these statistics<a class="user" href="http://www.ifamericansknew.org/stats/deaths.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.ifamericansknew.org/stats/deaths.html</a>israeli childern killed 173, palastinian childeren killed 1,487thats at least 8 times as many!i actualy take back that said both sides are idiots.Israel's the idiot, its just just better at killing.hamas on the other hand is smart(sick in the head, but smart), it's actually accomplishing something, mainly getting israel to help them get more recruits, helping them stay in power, helping them get more funding.and Israel are so blind they cant even see they are lead by the noise by hamas.israel should start looking REALLY closely as the northern ireland conflict. great Britain learned long ago that the best way to fight terrorists is not to fight back heavy handedly if at all.they are learning the same lesson in Afghanistan. stop killing their civilians and their recruitment supply dries up, their support falls away quickly, leaving the terrorists exposed and alone.
wpi97Feb 9, 2010
@CountessDo you take back what you said about Israel needing an "excuse" to defend its people? The picture is looking a little different if you actually look a little deeper, does it not? Take a look at those photos of mangled body parts from suicide bombings again. Take another look at the photos of the bodies of those 15-year-old Yeshiva students shot with a machine gun at point blank range by a terrorist. <a class="user" href="http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/125487" rel="nofollow">http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/1 ...</a>"israeli childern killed 173, palastinian childeren killed 1,487thats at least 8 times as many!"20 times as many Japanese were killed in the Pacific theater of WWII as the Americans. Does this mean the US is at fault?First, I seriously doubt the numbers on this particular site. Second, would you like to look up how many Israeli children were killed in the wave of suicide bombings between 1993 and 2000? Third, could it possibly be that the Israelis are actually trying to keep their children away from danger, while Palestinian leadership has been promoting the cult of martyrdom among the Palestinian children? Forth, do you not see a difference between civilians getting killed as a result of an attack on a legitimate military target, and deliberate murder of civilians by suicide bombings, shooting attacks, or rockets being fired into civilian population centers? The latter is a war crime, you know, while the former is not.The point is that the Palestinians can end this war today. All they have to do is stop trying to kill Israelis. Israel withdrew from Gaza 5 years ago, and it got years of rocket attacks in return. Only one side can stop this.As far as the IRA analogy, read this. <a class="user" href="http://nowlebanon.com/NewsArticleDetails.aspx?ID=143156" rel="nofollow">http://nowlebanon.com/NewsArticleDetails.aspx?ID=1 ...</a>It is about the Hezbollah, but it applies to Hamas just as well.
brothermApr 3, 2010
Actually, kasha34, jewish people are closer to muslims than anyone else on the planet. The prophet Muhammad SAS said that one of the signs of judgement day is that muslims will start to kill eachother in large numbers, and most of them think that they are following something good, but in fact they are not following anything good at all. This means that the muslims mentioned thinks that they are doing right by Allah SWT, but the sad truth is that they, due to their lack of knowledge or any other reason, instead acts agains Islam. A thing to remember, something my brother in law told me once: If you want to be a muslim, then follow Islam, not its followers. Do you belive in Allah SWT? Do you belive in his prophet Muhammad SAS? Do you belive in the Quran? Allah SWT, Muhammad SAS and the Quran doesnt commit any sins at all, they are perfect, but their followers are not perfect and they commit sins alot. So if you follow the followers, then you will go astray fast. In other words, dont judge the book by its cover. The muslims are only humanbeings, and whatever they do to give Islam a bad reputation will be judged by the one who holds our souls in his hands. But dont let these people rob you on the oppurtunity to find out the truth for yourself? It was not Allah SWT who committed those sins, so why accuse HIM?