zdnet.com.au— Apple's soon-to-be-launched iPhone will be irrelevant to business users because it is a "closed device" and does not support Microsoft Office, a senior executive with the software giant said this week.
Apr 19, 2007View in Crawl 4
Which MS made very clear in their statement which said the iphone would be great for what it's targeted for but has nothing to do with their business market so it would be irrelevent there. Add in an edited digg title, some apple fan boy digg users and voila, you have a huge story of MS bashing the iphone. All fan boys to the defence!
All the iPod users must be doing something wrong...?Microsoft must have a policy of "don't let Apple win" at anything; after all, why bother with the Zune? Here in Hong Kong the Zune it's not even available, whereas iPods can be bought within hours of being announced. I wonder if Ballmer and his Microserfs are making plans for MS-TV or some MS high-end editing software now. What if Apple started making rice cookers, would Microsoft too? The day Microsoft starts making cool products, that's the day Apple will start worrying, but that's not happening soon...
LOL, no one needs MS-Office on a PDA or smartphone. Ever worked with Excel on a 5" Display? Typing big stories in Word with a stylus? C'mon this is ridiculous :)
I can type about 40wpm using the thumbboard on my phone. Using a foldup Bluetooth keyboard I can go twice as fast. I've literally written for hours before into Pocket Word with no strain. Excel can work fine for basic data entry and syncs with your desktop PC for more intensive work, plus it works great as a viewer. Some people with real jobs actually have documents mailed to them for review and don't like to lug a laptop with them everywhere they go--Mobile Office can be a lifesaver.
Thank you. I was (mostly) appreciative of this well reasoned and thought out response until you slipped in a couple of ad homins...but par for the course. It's digg.I *still* don't know why you are being so damned...defensive. And out of all of what you posted, oddly, the last paragraph resonated the most:"Your complaint about Pocket IE is valid but pretty useless ("IE is so crap" isn't exactly a well-reasoned debate). Your anger about applications not running shoudl be directed towards developers. If you were really concerned about applications you should have purchased a phone with PPC Phone Edition."That last sentence...See, this is the complete and utter mindset schism between people that are primarily MacOSX users and practically everyone else:We don't have 5+ different shipping versions of the OS with similar names and vastly different core functions. As someone that is, I take it, primarily a Windows user, this expectation is "built-in".To say "if I cared" is disingenuous...at best. *Of course* I did. But (again, point-of-view here) "MacOS X is MacOS X"...intel, ppc, macbook, imac, etc. The thought that "WM5" isn't necessarily "WM5" just wasn't part of the thought process...because well...I don't live and breathe the various and sundry nuances of "Which Windows is Windows and how much Windows is it, really?"*shrug*
> drjones78 > I'm sorry but the people posting these comments dont know a damn thing about the mobile market.> Blackberry and Windows Mobile, while they do have a large share of business users, > ARE NOT the big dogs in the mobile market, by a long shot.> Windows definately is not the dominant tech. Nokia has the largest marketshare of phones> BY FAR, without the benefit of syncing with exchange, or playing microsoft video formats.> It just isnt that important, except maybe to the small % of buyers out there who get a phone, because they can open word doc's...It kills me how many people like DrJones here get dugg down because they state ONLY THE BLOODY FACTS!Look it up, you MS fanboys. Windows doesn't count in mobile phones, and doesn't have any kind of a hammer lock on so-called smart phones. Blackberry proves that rather handily.The iPhone will make WinCE look like the sad collection of hacks that it is, and demolish all the idiotic arguments as to why it must fail.But I don't expect many people to wake up and smell the Apples. After all, tech analysts have been telling us for 25 years how Apple and the Mac are doomed, and even tho they may have shut their stupid yaps on Apple's impending demise, they now spend their time bitching about how a company that doesn't matter because of it's market share is some kind of bully, locking people into to the nefarious iTunes/iPod hegemony. What is it, dipsticks? It can't be both irrelevant AND bullying an entire market.
knodiApr 19, 2007
"irrelevant" Is that the Borg part of MS speaking.
yazilliclickApr 20, 2007
Which MS made very clear in their statement which said the iphone would be great for what it's targeted for but has nothing to do with their business market so it would be irrelevent there. Add in an edited digg title, some apple fan boy digg users and voila, you have a huge story of MS bashing the iphone. All fan boys to the defence!
warnergtApr 20, 2007
I think you talk too much.
cindywanApr 20, 2007
All the iPod users must be doing something wrong...?Microsoft must have a policy of "don't let Apple win" at anything; after all, why bother with the Zune? Here in Hong Kong the Zune it's not even available, whereas iPods can be bought within hours of being announced. I wonder if Ballmer and his Microserfs are making plans for MS-TV or some MS high-end editing software now. What if Apple started making rice cookers, would Microsoft too? The day Microsoft starts making cool products, that's the day Apple will start worrying, but that's not happening soon...
xtraaApr 20, 2007
LOL, no one needs MS-Office on a PDA or smartphone. Ever worked with Excel on a 5" Display? Typing big stories in Word with a stylus? C'mon this is ridiculous :)
ethergnatApr 20, 2007
I can type about 40wpm using the thumbboard on my phone. Using a foldup Bluetooth keyboard I can go twice as fast. I've literally written for hours before into Pocket Word with no strain. Excel can work fine for basic data entry and syncs with your desktop PC for more intensive work, plus it works great as a viewer. Some people with real jobs actually have documents mailed to them for review and don't like to lug a laptop with them everywhere they go--Mobile Office can be a lifesaver.
darktenApr 21, 2007
Thank you. I was (mostly) appreciative of this well reasoned and thought out response until you slipped in a couple of ad homins...but par for the course. It's digg.I *still* don't know why you are being so damned...defensive. And out of all of what you posted, oddly, the last paragraph resonated the most:"Your complaint about Pocket IE is valid but pretty useless ("IE is so crap" isn't exactly a well-reasoned debate). Your anger about applications not running shoudl be directed towards developers. If you were really concerned about applications you should have purchased a phone with PPC Phone Edition."That last sentence...See, this is the complete and utter mindset schism between people that are primarily MacOSX users and practically everyone else:We don't have 5+ different shipping versions of the OS with similar names and vastly different core functions. As someone that is, I take it, primarily a Windows user, this expectation is "built-in".To say "if I cared" is disingenuous...at best. *Of course* I did. But (again, point-of-view here) "MacOS X is MacOS X"...intel, ppc, macbook, imac, etc. The thought that "WM5" isn't necessarily "WM5" just wasn't part of the thought process...because well...I don't live and breathe the various and sundry nuances of "Which Windows is Windows and how much Windows is it, really?"*shrug*
hisshadowApr 23, 2007
> drjones78 > I'm sorry but the people posting these comments dont know a damn thing about the mobile market.> Blackberry and Windows Mobile, while they do have a large share of business users, > ARE NOT the big dogs in the mobile market, by a long shot.> Windows definately is not the dominant tech. Nokia has the largest marketshare of phones> BY FAR, without the benefit of syncing with exchange, or playing microsoft video formats.> It just isnt that important, except maybe to the small % of buyers out there who get a phone, because they can open word doc's...It kills me how many people like DrJones here get dugg down because they state ONLY THE BLOODY FACTS!Look it up, you MS fanboys. Windows doesn't count in mobile phones, and doesn't have any kind of a hammer lock on so-called smart phones. Blackberry proves that rather handily.The iPhone will make WinCE look like the sad collection of hacks that it is, and demolish all the idiotic arguments as to why it must fail.But I don't expect many people to wake up and smell the Apples. After all, tech analysts have been telling us for 25 years how Apple and the Mac are doomed, and even tho they may have shut their stupid yaps on Apple's impending demise, they now spend their time bitching about how a company that doesn't matter because of it's market share is some kind of bully, locking people into to the nefarious iTunes/iPod hegemony. What is it, dipsticks? It can't be both irrelevant AND bullying an entire market.
vermifaxApr 26, 2007
"Ignorance is bliss vermifax."You would know so, I'll take your word for it.