news.bbc.co.uk— The European Commission has fined US computer giant Microsoft for defying sanctions imposed on it for anti-competitive behaviour.
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Come to think of it, Apple bundles a lot of nice crap onto their computers, and not just iTunes. Well, IE 7 is a decent browser (I prefer Mozilla myself), but yeah.
"its another to arbitrarily decide to demand 1.4 billion dollars."What is so hard to understand about issuing a fine to someone who breaks the law? Microsoft is a huge company, and thus the fine will be huge too.
Kanidia... you're not getting it. You can't accidentally delete IE. You can't accidentally remove something embedded in the kernel.You make the point, "what if you're browser gets corrupted". This is the point 47f0 is getting at. What if your user-land application (in this case IE) gets corrupted? How are you going to reinstall it. How are you going to download an alternative browser? Are you going to screw with your registry to get it fixed. In Solaris, Linux (all distros), Mac, HP-UX, AIX, you simply reinstall that application that has become corrupted and voila, you're ready to go. It's horrible for you as a user, and it's an incredibly bad design decision. Read about the difference between kernel mode and user mode (what 47f0 is talking about) and you're going to be biting your nails, wondering what the hell Microsoft developers are really doing? They're not giving you a good application, their binding vendors to their web browser, so they can't delete and install something else. I'm not dissing Microsoft or IE, they're both fine products, but it's not fair, and it's not good AT ALL for you as a user.
fuzzynyankoFeb 27, 2008
Come to think of it, Apple bundles a lot of nice crap onto their computers, and not just iTunes. Well, IE 7 is a decent browser (I prefer Mozilla myself), but yeah.
init100Feb 28, 2008
"its another to arbitrarily decide to demand 1.4 billion dollars."What is so hard to understand about issuing a fine to someone who breaks the law? Microsoft is a huge company, and thus the fine will be huge too.
nologoFeb 28, 2008
Kanidia... you're not getting it. You can't accidentally delete IE. You can't accidentally remove something embedded in the kernel.You make the point, "what if you're browser gets corrupted". This is the point 47f0 is getting at. What if your user-land application (in this case IE) gets corrupted? How are you going to reinstall it. How are you going to download an alternative browser? Are you going to screw with your registry to get it fixed. In Solaris, Linux (all distros), Mac, HP-UX, AIX, you simply reinstall that application that has become corrupted and voila, you're ready to go. It's horrible for you as a user, and it's an incredibly bad design decision. Read about the difference between kernel mode and user mode (what 47f0 is talking about) and you're going to be biting your nails, wondering what the hell Microsoft developers are really doing? They're not giving you a good application, their binding vendors to their web browser, so they can't delete and install something else. I'm not dissing Microsoft or IE, they're both fine products, but it's not fair, and it's not good AT ALL for you as a user.
init100Feb 29, 2008
"Just seems like Microsoft has been the EU whipping boy lately"This is because Microsoft ignored the previous rulings for more than a year.
misanthropeFeb 29, 2008
Well that's pretty shady. I didn't know all of that. Thanks for the reply.
ch33seheadMar 3, 2008
Link? Site? Proof? Name of projects?
gruntboyxMar 4, 2008
Yes but last time i checked 3.42 bn > 1.4 bn
ccmachinedMar 16, 2008
while a billion and a bit is a lot of dollars, Microsoft have 50+ more.