bink.nu— "I have been playing around with "Microsoft Windows XP Fundamentals for Legacy PC's". The result can be seen in screenshots posted on my gallery." - Bink
Jul 14, 2006View in Crawl 4
From the microsoft.com page for this app..."Windows Fundamentals for Legacy PCs is not a general-purpose operating system. It is designed to work with the Microsoft Remote Desktop Connection client or third-party clients such as the Citrix ICA client. In addition, it allows for a limited number of workloads to be executed locally, including security software, management software, terminal emulation software, document viewers, and the .NET Framework."It's basically just a shell used to launch an RDP client. It's not an OS in the typical sense. In order to do much of anything you're going to have to have server or preferably farm of servers on the backend for these boxes to connect to.If you already have that kind of infrastructure in place, this could be very useful. Otherwise, most companies aren't ready to go out and spend the money for the kind of box(es) you need to make an these clients usable while keeping the backend server stable. That's all before they consider the actual licensing for each of these Terminal Services connections and the software which will be used with them. In the end, buying a new round of PCs could easily be a better option.As others have stated, that is product is all about A) Getting people to buy Software Assurance B) Keeping Linux (which can run solidly standalone on older hardware or an RDP client just fine) off the corporate desktops.
If all you want to do is run a secure system with RDP then you would be just as well installing Linux (Gentoo would be ideal) and set it to automatically start rdesktop and little else. End result, even an early Pentium, possibly even a 486, should be able to start and X server and rdesktop connecting to a Windows Terminal Server. Voila, legacy PC running the latest and greatest Windows apps. I knew a guy in Fife about 7 years back who was doing just this using 486s and Citrix. I was doing similar things from my old Sun 386i (25Mhz 386DX, 8MB RAM) to my more powerful 486DX with 20MB Linux machine using XDMCP. MS might think this thing is light weight but it really isn't.
I think Apple should do the same and release a thin down version of OSX for the older PowerPC's....since MS is using this software as a numbers game. so they look good against the rising tide of Linux and OSX.Apple would only have to included Safari, Sherlock, and QT with itunes....this would give the users of the older OS's a chance to try OSX and perhaps get the urge to upgrade to a new machine!And there is a lot of those Old machines around..... say 10 million or so think of what that would do to the numbers!
"233.. when I think Legacy I think 486, 386, 286, 8086, 8088, not Pentium II class. Anything that's "Legacy" in a computer should refer to stuff in the 80's at the latest early 90's, not stuff that's only 10 years old." The Pentium was introduced on March 22, 1993. I believe that would make it a "legacy" PC according to your flawed logic.PCs are outdated the minute you buy them, and for most consumers several minutes before :)
022aJul 14, 2006
From the microsoft.com page for this app..."Windows Fundamentals for Legacy PCs is not a general-purpose operating system. It is designed to work with the Microsoft Remote Desktop Connection client or third-party clients such as the Citrix ICA client. In addition, it allows for a limited number of workloads to be executed locally, including security software, management software, terminal emulation software, document viewers, and the .NET Framework."It's basically just a shell used to launch an RDP client. It's not an OS in the typical sense. In order to do much of anything you're going to have to have server or preferably farm of servers on the backend for these boxes to connect to.If you already have that kind of infrastructure in place, this could be very useful. Otherwise, most companies aren't ready to go out and spend the money for the kind of box(es) you need to make an these clients usable while keeping the backend server stable. That's all before they consider the actual licensing for each of these Terminal Services connections and the software which will be used with them. In the end, buying a new round of PCs could easily be a better option.As others have stated, that is product is all about A) Getting people to buy Software Assurance B) Keeping Linux (which can run solidly standalone on older hardware or an RDP client just fine) off the corporate desktops.
greatdrokJul 14, 2006
If all you want to do is run a secure system with RDP then you would be just as well installing Linux (Gentoo would be ideal) and set it to automatically start rdesktop and little else. End result, even an early Pentium, possibly even a 486, should be able to start and X server and rdesktop connecting to a Windows Terminal Server. Voila, legacy PC running the latest and greatest Windows apps. I knew a guy in Fife about 7 years back who was doing just this using 486s and Citrix. I was doing similar things from my old Sun 386i (25Mhz 386DX, 8MB RAM) to my more powerful 486DX with 20MB Linux machine using XDMCP. MS might think this thing is light weight but it really isn't.
masterrJul 15, 2006
I wasn't talking about Us3n3t, I was talking about Usenet, you tool.
nufotoJul 15, 2006
I think Apple should do the same and release a thin down version of OSX for the older PowerPC's....since MS is using this software as a numbers game. so they look good against the rising tide of Linux and OSX.Apple would only have to included Safari, Sherlock, and QT with itunes....this would give the users of the older OS's a chance to try OSX and perhaps get the urge to upgrade to a new machine!And there is a lot of those Old machines around..... say 10 million or so think of what that would do to the numbers!
brettJul 16, 2006
"233.. when I think Legacy I think 486, 386, 286, 8086, 8088, not Pentium II class. Anything that's "Legacy" in a computer should refer to stuff in the 80's at the latest early 90's, not stuff that's only 10 years old." The Pentium was introduced on March 22, 1993. I believe that would make it a "legacy" PC according to your flawed logic.PCs are outdated the minute you buy them, and for most consumers several minutes before :)
ptrcd003Jul 17, 2006
@mrrrmrmrrmrWith a proper install and partitioning defrag is useless? STFU and stop talking about s**t you don't know jack about.
eviltwin231Jan 27, 2007
I have a P3 laptop that only supports 128MB RAM, and use this, as it runs MUCH smoother than XP.