theinquirer.net— A report said an implementation of a system wide content protection scheme in Microsoft Vista will mean many screens will display a "monitor revoked" message.
Oct 5, 2005View in Crawl 4
Yes, it will do this when protected content is not allowed to show. And guess what, XP won't be able to play it back at all. And guess what else, Apple will either be like Vista and show the "monitor revoked" message, or be like XP and just not play the content at all.
isnt this connected to the HDCP thing? regarding displaying HD stuff when you dont have a monitor equipped to tell the difference between legal and not legal or copy protected and not?Hasnt microsoft already pointed out that most content providers have agreed to not completely blank the disply but just present the non HD content instead?Is this just M$ bashing BS again?(I'd just like to point out, I'm a Mac fanboy, before i get accused of loving all things windows)
DRM is not bad if well executed like Fairplay but knowing microsoft, I HIGHLY doubt that they will implement anything that is intuitive after all Microsoft ONLY listens and cares about BIG companies and the enterprise market beacause those people have no other choice (Baldy Ballmer (
Xedion, Fairplay has restrictions too. Sure, you can burn an unlimited amount of playlists, but you can only burn the same playlist 7 times. So technically, you can only burn a purchased CD seven times before iTunes "locks it out". I'm sure Quicktime ( Like WMP ) will implement DRM restrictions in the future as well. It's the only way to keep the RIAA/MPAA happy. If they don't, then Mac user's just won't be able to view any restricted content. Period. Same goes for Linux. I'm not complaining about Mac OS X, but you guys need to realize this isn't just a Microsoft problem.
i don't understand; i am not going to buy plasma tv, how will i see hd-dvd and blu-ray dvd?!?! the reason i have comp is because it's also my tv but now you're saying i can't use it to watch hd content, what good is my comp??
Speaking of all this I bought the T2 extreme dvd today for 10 bucks at Best Buy. I knew it has something sucky about it, but to make a long story short, I can not watch the high def version without buying a different dvd software package, as Cyberlink isn't supported. DRM sucks.
The more off this shat I read Linux sounds better. Now I know that gets said a lot but really. Sure I will most likely dual boot XP so as too play games but that would be about it. I'm sure that what ever else i would ever want to do could be accomplished in Linux. But then again that's just me.
Sorry to scare you mcbesq. It is good news that your TV is HDCP. What TV did you buy? I have the Toshiba 52HM84 and I could never go back to standard definition.
By the way, HD-DVD/Blu-ray have Mandatory HDCP encrypted output. So you will see HDCP support from Apple on Leopard (Mac OS X 10.5) or sooner. Our Linux friends have a big problem, because HDCP has to be commerciallylicensed. The GPL prevents Linux from shipping with any licensed software. So no High-Definition for Linux. If you want to watch HD on your computer then Vista will be the only way until Leopard. The mentally acute will understand this, the rest will continue to post "I am switching to Linux" or "M$ sucks".
digitaltravOct 5, 2005
Yes, it will do this when protected content is not allowed to show. And guess what, XP won't be able to play it back at all. And guess what else, Apple will either be like Vista and show the "monitor revoked" message, or be like XP and just not play the content at all.
hypersapienOct 5, 2005
I refuse to switch to XP. No way in hell I'm getting this peice of garbage. Maybe it's time to switch to linux.
maniacfiveOct 5, 2005
isnt this connected to the HDCP thing? regarding displaying HD stuff when you dont have a monitor equipped to tell the difference between legal and not legal or copy protected and not?Hasnt microsoft already pointed out that most content providers have agreed to not completely blank the disply but just present the non HD content instead?Is this just M$ bashing BS again?(I'd just like to point out, I'm a Mac fanboy, before i get accused of loving all things windows)
xedeonOct 5, 2005
DRM is not bad if well executed like Fairplay but knowing microsoft, I HIGHLY doubt that they will implement anything that is intuitive after all Microsoft ONLY listens and cares about BIG companies and the enterprise market beacause those people have no other choice (Baldy Ballmer (
kab3wmOct 5, 2005
Xedion, Fairplay has restrictions too. Sure, you can burn an unlimited amount of playlists, but you can only burn the same playlist 7 times. So technically, you can only burn a purchased CD seven times before iTunes "locks it out". I'm sure Quicktime ( Like WMP ) will implement DRM restrictions in the future as well. It's the only way to keep the RIAA/MPAA happy. If they don't, then Mac user's just won't be able to view any restricted content. Period. Same goes for Linux. I'm not complaining about Mac OS X, but you guys need to realize this isn't just a Microsoft problem.
tehlazypirateOct 6, 2005
I'll believe this when they release vista...i guess ill be waiting for a LONG time.+digg
aznboi04kOct 6, 2005
i don't understand; i am not going to buy plasma tv, how will i see hd-dvd and blu-ray dvd?!?! the reason i have comp is because it's also my tv but now you're saying i can't use it to watch hd content, what good is my comp??
eviliuOct 6, 2005
Speaking of all this I bought the T2 extreme dvd today for 10 bucks at Best Buy. I knew it has something sucky about it, but to make a long story short, I can not watch the high def version without buying a different dvd software package, as Cyberlink isn't supported. DRM sucks.
pillfredOct 6, 2005
The more off this shat I read Linux sounds better. Now I know that gets said a lot but really. Sure I will most likely dual boot XP so as too play games but that would be about it. I'm sure that what ever else i would ever want to do could be accomplished in Linux. But then again that's just me.
mcbesqOct 6, 2005
Thank goodness.Just checked. My TV's HDMI is HDMI/HDCP. Phew! For $2K, a TV should last a decade.
lynnOct 6, 2005
Sorry to scare you mcbesq. It is good news that your TV is HDCP. What TV did you buy? I have the Toshiba 52HM84 and I could never go back to standard definition.
lynnOct 6, 2005
By the way, HD-DVD/Blu-ray have Mandatory HDCP encrypted output. So you will see HDCP support from Apple on Leopard (Mac OS X 10.5) or sooner. Our Linux friends have a big problem, because HDCP has to be commerciallylicensed. The GPL prevents Linux from shipping with any licensed software. So no High-Definition for Linux. If you want to watch HD on your computer then Vista will be the only way until Leopard. The mentally acute will understand this, the rest will continue to post "I am switching to Linux" or "M$ sucks".