microsoft.com — Microsoft have released Private Folder 1.0, which lets you have a folder called 'My Private Folder' which you can password protect. This was posted on Neowin by cep_head: http://www.neowin.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=476116&st=0
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kami_no_kodomoJul 6, 2006
@ziadoz"The only reason people write an alternative is because they don't like Microsoft."TrueCrypt exists for YEARS. And now microsoft comes whit something. So microsoft has written an alternative. Not the TreuCript People."They don't try the software in the article,"Sorry that microsoft program dusn't run on my Linux."they just see the word Microsoft and let rip with Open Source spamming."If you think a securety programm from microsoft is a good Idee think of this:- they hacve tons of securety holes in all there software- they don't fix holes or it take them months to do so.- they don't take privacy of the customes serieusly.And even more: securety software MUST be open source becose otherways there will be backdoors in it. Beleve me. If the FBI/CAI/... comes to microsoft 'here you have 100 miljon if you put this backdoor in your product' they will do it.And even more. Before you start bashing an other product. Look to the diferences. TrueCript has lots of cool features that that ms thing dusnt.O yes I have a folder on in my documents folder that tels evrybody 'hey this people hase some secret files here' now THATS securety. (ironty)With trucript I put om some plase nowan looks a file where the secret stuff is in. And if they alsk me (in cord or so) i give an second valid password that the password my secred files are incripted whit and they will see other files. No way to prove them that ther is also other stuff in the file. (That is what real securety is)
comartJul 6, 2006
good
Closed AccountJul 6, 2006
Pfftt....Microsoft's EFS does basically the same thing and you don't have to install any external apps. Right click - properties Advanced button, check "encrypt contents to secure data". Even if you load up a boot CD, it'll read the file as 0 kb. Now then, does anyone know how to crack EFS effectively? ;)
goblindegookJul 6, 2006
"Don't spam my threads with alternatives, no one cares."1) It's not "your" thread. And 2) I care. In fact, I'm installing TrueCrypt on my laptop right now. You never know when it might get stolen, putting all my personal info in the hands of criminal with only Microsoft's basic and possibly unreliable authentication methods to protect it.
hemansaratogaJul 7, 2006
moeq - first off high crypt is not always needed. Sometimes just some security is enough. If I want high security I know this new program is not the solution but I only need a tiny bit. I can read and I can figure it out truecrypt no problem but I don't have the time. A tech nerd like you may enjoy a cluttered interface and techie words in the truecrypt program when they could have made it tons easier to use but I don't - I want to click around and figure it out immediately so I can go back to running my business
moeqJul 8, 2006
Enjoy your NSA backdoor.
ikioiJul 8, 2006
@SamLReread my post carefully. I in no way knocked the advanced Windows permission system. But, since you think I did, I might as well.You are incorrect. It doesn't "blow unix" out of the water. You're comparing Windows + encryption to standard Unix. Windows permissions are a copy of Unix permissions, owner-group-world/read-write-execute. Did you think MS invented that? Pure permissions are infallible in theory, and fallible only in improper implementation. Did you think MS magically improved on permissions theory that's been in use for over 3 decades Did they add something that only you are aware of? NTFS is just a method of storing the file data and permissions in metadata as a "sparce" storage system. You can use permission systems on any file system, and NTFS has nothing to do with improved permissions. Permissions are controlled by an ACL, which Windows, Linux, and any other modern OS has.In short, those ARE unix-style perms! Before you question someone's education, know what the hell you are talking about to begin with. To quote the Geico commercial, "Yeah, how about you do a little research next time."Now, if you want me to knock Windows logins, I'll beat the holy crap out of its user system and it's horrible "RunAs" setup. You said it yourself "This product is different from a true permission system because it acknowledges the fact that on XP, most users share a user account (with admin access)" And that's why virii spread like wildfire on Windows, because everyone has to run as admin, because "RunAs" was done so poorly. Put a Sony CD in Windows, and you get a rootkit from hell instantly because of the "blowing unix out of the water" type security Windows has. It acknowledges? It's not a separate program, it's part of XP. If MS really acknowledged the problem, they'd fix the problem. I hear Vista really fixes it too. Enjoy having to enter your password every time you change the desktop background.But you're comparing apples and oranges, and have nothing to do with my original comments that explained why permissions are an important layer of security.Everyone here (that gets modded down) doesn't run OSS, or Linux, or Unix. They run MS and only MS (maybe playing with a live CD every once in a while), and assume everyone else is inferior because they can't play Doom3 on it. The difference with Linux users is that we all do run Windows of ever flavor that's ever come out, and don't assume, but know, its still inferior when referring to security. And just because you may have run a Knoppix Live CD doesn't make you a linux expert. You average Linux admin is also a Windows admin, because desktops are still predominantly Windows. Your average Windows admin can avoid linux if their IT department has a budget to purchase unlimited Access user licenses. I laugh constantly at MS admins who have to consolidate user logins to keep under an imaginary limit set up by their license.What you missed is that you just repeated everything I've been saying. This tool is worse than using the already bundled Windows encryption, and if you use correct file permissions and don't let users share your account, you are better off (if you back up your certificates). This tool claims to be a true data safe, which it is not, and is pretty much useless unless your #1 goal is hiding porn from a computer illiterate family member. (Though your kids will probably find a crack for it.)
ikioiJul 8, 2006
<a class="user" href="http://www.truecrypt.org/user-guide/tutorial.php">http://www.truecrypt.org/user-guide/tutorial.php</a> - Beginner's Guide<a class="user" href="http://www.truecrypt.org/user-guide/">http://www.truecrypt.org/user-guide/</a> - Full DocumentationTo backup your Microsoft Outlook files, you want to create a Personal Folder, which can also be passworded: <a class="user" href="http://asp2.wlv.ac.uk/its/website/selfhelp/help/outlook/outlook_personal_folders.asp">http://asp2.wlv.ac.uk/its/website/selfhelp/help/outlook/outlook_personal_folders.asp</a>To back up a personal folder once you've copied everything to it, just burn it to a CD or copy it to a disk/USB drive.Yeah, the geeky stuff is sometimes difficult to use because each program is written outside a common framework (they don't all act or look alike). But, most of us have parents, grandparents, and other family who come to us at all hours of the night/day asking for help. Geeks of all kinds are helpful, especially open source geeks (they have to be, since they are the only support open source programs have usually). Never be ashamed to say, "I don't get it, can someone explain how to make it work?"That's how most geeks learned what they know. Until we asked so much that someone told us to RTFM. ;)BTW, if this is sensative material, I wouldn't let a worker on your PC. The #1 source of data theft are inside jobs by workers stealing their own employer's information. You may be better off paying for a second computer than risking your information or your customers information "wandering off".
lucas22Jul 9, 2006
thanks to the people here who pointed out truecrypt. it looks like an awesome program. Ms users, dont bag the techies when they recommmend a program that is better than private folders. if you think that it will suit you, fine go ahead and do it. i like to know that there are people who think outside the box and broaden my options. flamewars are so 1983
harsoniJul 11, 2006
Easier way to setup Folder as Private. This is more than enough for me though it doesn't support other futures of Microsoft Private Folder.<a class="user" href="http://www.infosrama.com/digitalseeker/2006/06/microsoft-windows-xp-how-to-set-as.html">http://www.infosrama.com/digitalseeker/2006/06/microsoft-windows-xp-how-to-set-as.html</a>