xbox360fanboy.com— Microsoft has said that a price drop won't take place. "We have no plans to make any price adjustment. ... we have a great value proposition."
May 22, 2006View in Crawl 4
Even if they were going to drop the price they wouldn't just come out any say so... If they did, they'd see a huge hit in their sales until the time the price actually does drop. If/When the price eventually does drop there will be very short if any notice beforehand by M$------------------------------------<a class="user" href="http://www.wiishlist.com">http://www.wiishlist.com</a>
Or a Wii and around 8 games (at, say, $50 a game), for the price of a PS3 high end with NO game. That's a pretty good deal to me.(at the rumored price of $200 for a Wii. Adjust accordingly to whatever rumored price i've missed.)
PS3 games WILL NOT be above $60. Otherwise, they WILL have officially become idiots and sealed the coffin for me, and I actually really like Sony and don't have that big of a problem with the one-time only system cost. They may be half crazy with the PS3 pricing, but they are not dumb. the games WILL be either at $60 or they will wither into the worst decisions in video gaming history, ONE OR THE OTHER, NOT BOTH, MARK MY WORDS! System may be costly, but $70 GAMES WILL NOT BE PURCHASED BY MORE THAN 50 PEOPLE WORLDWIDE! It's proposterous to think that, even for Sony.
XBOX 360 = System $400 (Premium Package) = Xbox Live Gold Subscription $50 (1 year) = High Definition add-on $100-150? $550-600PS3=System $600 (Premium Package) = PlayStation Online Service $0 (According to Sony, will be completely free, unlike XBL) = High Definition already-on $0 $600Therefore $600 $600 XBOX 360 PS3 (+high def,+online) (high def and online included in price already)so @dioscaido, there are several ways to justify the cost of the PS3 using the 360 model. When you add the features already in the PS3 next to the 360 with the added features, you justify the cost (as shown above).
I'm with dioscaido here.I don't need WiFi, my modem and router are right next to my system. HD-DVD? No format has been adopted yet so that's a HUGE gamble. If Sony leaves their online service up to the developers it's going to be one huge, painful mess. I pay $4 a month for Live and it's worth it for a unified system with an easy to manage friends list and a unified online community using a single ID. Once HD-DVD or Blu-Ray becomes more mainstream then, and only then, will I make the decision to go one way or the other. At least I have the option of NOT getting screwed by my console if the format gets rejected or I don't have a REQUIRED HDMI port in order to even play the damned thing.
Maybe I didn't make this clear. It's not about whether you want blu-ray or not, it's about justifying the cost. I didn't mention the need for wifi in the 360, i actually mentioned things NOT in the 360 that make it 200 cheaper than the PS3 (The absence of the extra 40 gigs (which i forgot to mention), a high def drive, and free online capabilities). Oh and FYI, if you check around digg, you will find that Sony announced that online will be completely free and if you look at the E3, their online service is looking to be a lot like XBL, which is a standalone unified system. So maybe they are going with that standalone unified system thing after all, dioscaido. If you didn't see it, you might want to go to the E3 section on Gamespot where they have the whole PlayStation conference in which they show the XBL-like PS3 online service that you said Nobody has seen. Oh and dude, don't make this a flame war, not what I was trying to get at, just trying to clarify the point made by dmccleave.And @Nobi-wan, Sony did this 6 years ago with the PS2 when they FORCED the DVD format on us. They took that gamble and it worked VERY well, now they are in the dillemma with the high def gamble where they believe Blu-ray is better than HD-DVD (which after studying the differences for months, Blu-Ray IS a step above HD-DVD, but that's another story). If it succeeds, the hd-dvd drive add-on will be a waste of adopters money and they will have to get a blu-ray add-on, if it doesn't, chances are it will only be used to produce PS3 games and nothing else. All I'm saying is that give credit where credit is due, MS claims to have high def gaming with a standard def player (admittedly the graphics are very good, but is it truly high def?). Sony claims to have high def gaming with a high def player (yeah, they are taking a BIG risk, but that's what companies do, and it will either work or fail. the fact that MS is playing it safe is a move that is viewed by some as smart and others as cowardly). You be the judge...
I wish there would be a "price drop" here in Israel. Because Microsoft hasn't officially launched the Xbox 360 here (as it never launched the original Xbox) and gaming stores privately import them the price for the premium package is over $650 (and we don't make our salaries in dollars, we need to work more for the equivalent of $1 than our american counterparts). Thats not all, every game costs over $100.So, yeah, a price drop here would be nice :)
friekedMay 22, 2006
Even if they were going to drop the price they wouldn't just come out any say so... If they did, they'd see a huge hit in their sales until the time the price actually does drop. If/When the price eventually does drop there will be very short if any notice beforehand by M$------------------------------------<a class="user" href="http://www.wiishlist.com">http://www.wiishlist.com</a>
area51mafiaMay 23, 2006
Or a Wii and around 8 games (at, say, $50 a game), for the price of a PS3 high end with NO game. That's a pretty good deal to me.(at the rumored price of $200 for a Wii. Adjust accordingly to whatever rumored price i've missed.)
knypheMay 23, 2006
PS3 games WILL NOT be above $60. Otherwise, they WILL have officially become idiots and sealed the coffin for me, and I actually really like Sony and don't have that big of a problem with the one-time only system cost. They may be half crazy with the PS3 pricing, but they are not dumb. the games WILL be either at $60 or they will wither into the worst decisions in video gaming history, ONE OR THE OTHER, NOT BOTH, MARK MY WORDS! System may be costly, but $70 GAMES WILL NOT BE PURCHASED BY MORE THAN 50 PEOPLE WORLDWIDE! It's proposterous to think that, even for Sony.
knypheMay 23, 2006
XBOX 360 = System $400 (Premium Package) = Xbox Live Gold Subscription $50 (1 year) = High Definition add-on $100-150? $550-600PS3=System $600 (Premium Package) = PlayStation Online Service $0 (According to Sony, will be completely free, unlike XBL) = High Definition already-on $0 $600Therefore $600 $600 XBOX 360 PS3 (+high def,+online) (high def and online included in price already)so @dioscaido, there are several ways to justify the cost of the PS3 using the 360 model. When you add the features already in the PS3 next to the 360 with the added features, you justify the cost (as shown above).
nobi_wanMay 23, 2006
I'm with dioscaido here.I don't need WiFi, my modem and router are right next to my system. HD-DVD? No format has been adopted yet so that's a HUGE gamble. If Sony leaves their online service up to the developers it's going to be one huge, painful mess. I pay $4 a month for Live and it's worth it for a unified system with an easy to manage friends list and a unified online community using a single ID. Once HD-DVD or Blu-Ray becomes more mainstream then, and only then, will I make the decision to go one way or the other. At least I have the option of NOT getting screwed by my console if the format gets rejected or I don't have a REQUIRED HDMI port in order to even play the damned thing.
knypheMay 23, 2006
Maybe I didn't make this clear. It's not about whether you want blu-ray or not, it's about justifying the cost. I didn't mention the need for wifi in the 360, i actually mentioned things NOT in the 360 that make it 200 cheaper than the PS3 (The absence of the extra 40 gigs (which i forgot to mention), a high def drive, and free online capabilities). Oh and FYI, if you check around digg, you will find that Sony announced that online will be completely free and if you look at the E3, their online service is looking to be a lot like XBL, which is a standalone unified system. So maybe they are going with that standalone unified system thing after all, dioscaido. If you didn't see it, you might want to go to the E3 section on Gamespot where they have the whole PlayStation conference in which they show the XBL-like PS3 online service that you said Nobody has seen. Oh and dude, don't make this a flame war, not what I was trying to get at, just trying to clarify the point made by dmccleave.And @Nobi-wan, Sony did this 6 years ago with the PS2 when they FORCED the DVD format on us. They took that gamble and it worked VERY well, now they are in the dillemma with the high def gamble where they believe Blu-ray is better than HD-DVD (which after studying the differences for months, Blu-Ray IS a step above HD-DVD, but that's another story). If it succeeds, the hd-dvd drive add-on will be a waste of adopters money and they will have to get a blu-ray add-on, if it doesn't, chances are it will only be used to produce PS3 games and nothing else. All I'm saying is that give credit where credit is due, MS claims to have high def gaming with a standard def player (admittedly the graphics are very good, but is it truly high def?). Sony claims to have high def gaming with a high def player (yeah, they are taking a BIG risk, but that's what companies do, and it will either work or fail. the fact that MS is playing it safe is a move that is viewed by some as smart and others as cowardly). You be the judge...
aharoniMay 27, 2006
I wish there would be a "price drop" here in Israel. Because Microsoft hasn't officially launched the Xbox 360 here (as it never launched the original Xbox) and gaming stores privately import them the price for the premium package is over $650 (and we don't make our salaries in dollars, we need to work more for the equivalent of $1 than our american counterparts). Thats not all, every game costs over $100.So, yeah, a price drop here would be nice :)