img.photobucket.com— Comparison of how many people have joined each candidate's meet-up group.Ron Paul, Barack Obama, Mike Huckabee, Hillary Clinton, and Rudy Giuliani are compared.
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I cite the polls and voter turn out as evidence that he may mop up in Iowa and NH. The polls are known to be wrong due to land line based polling, yet I've seen him as high as 8%. A large majority of RP supporters aren't reflected in those polls. By how much is anyone's guess. 100% of RP's people will turn out and vote, and at this point, a large majority of them will be campaigning for him right up to election day. And in new Hampshire, there will be a blimp for him floating around the state. This is not true of the other candidates. This will have a significant effect at the polling booth. I don't see how any of the other republican candidates can possibly win. They're also money Bombing him again on Dec 16th - The Tea Party I think they're calling it.
#1 conservative (bad type) strategy for countering someone they feel threatened by: call them crazy/whack job/left-wing extremist etc.This gets very tiresome, as you feel like you can totally put down "reality" and "facts" by feebly labelling someone who actually is aware of "reality" and "facts" as a lunatic. You might want to switch it up next time with "Ron Paul is gay" or "Ron Paul is retarded" or some equally compelling insult.
First of all, I would just like to remind everyone that if you're sick of reading articles about a certain subject here on Digg, then you do have the choice to NOT read that article. Personally, I find the console or OS debates a little tiring, but I don't feel the need to spam the discussion of those topics, whining about how tired I am of them. If I don't care about a subject, I don't read it. You don't have to either. And if you don't know how to find articles besides those on the front page, then you have bigger worries than what Ron Paul is doing. I think the really interesting thing about the meetup thing is that it proves that Ron Paul is NOT just an internet phenomenon. It's EASY to digg up topics supporting him, or to vote for him on an online poll. What's interesting (and great, in my opinion) is that the people in these meetup groups are actually doing something more than that. They're spreading the word about the candidate they believe in. They're getting together with other supporters and coming up with ways to spread the word in their communities about a candidate that they feel isn't being given a fair shake by the mainstream media. They're taking time out of their own lives and money out of their own pockets to organize and spread the word. That's amazing. I think that suggests that they're not just following an internet fad, like some have claimed. I also think it's extremely naive for anyone to assume that the only people who back Ron Paul are those who are registered with meetup. That's not the case for any candidate. The majority of any candidate's supporters don't join formal support groups, they just quietly go about their business until election day and then go to the polls and vote for the candidate they think is best. One can only hope that, before they get there, they've been given the opportunity to hear the platforms of all the candidates and make an informed decision. If they only get their news from television, then chances are, they haven't had the opportunity to hear every candidate's platforms. If the media is focusing most of their attention on the three front-runners, then that's who they'll vote between. Who's to say they might not have voted differently had they actually had a chance to hear the other candidates views on the issues?Ron Paul wasn't even a blip on the radar for me a month ago. Then I started going to Digg pretty frequently. I kept noticing these articles about him making the front page. At first it was a bit of an annoyance to me, but I got curious. I wanted to know why all these people supported him so much. So, I went to his website and actually read his platforms. The more I thought about it, the more it made sense to me. Now I support him wholeheartedly. I'm going this Tuesday to change my registration from Democrat to Republican just so I can vote for him in the primaries. For a nation that was supposed to be wallowing in apathy, I think it's a wonderful thing that so many people have awakened and started CARING about our nation again. Some of you may be put off by how passionately his supporters feel about him, but at least they are passionate about SOMETHING. And it's something that matters. I mean, come on people, we're talking about who will get to be the next leader of our country.Saying "I like Ron Paul, but I'm not voting for him because I think he's unelectable" is a slap in the face of democracy. You're not supposed to vote for the candidate you think will win, you're supposed to vote for the one you think is best ( I can't believe how many people don't realize that). I accept the fact that he may not win, but I can't choose NOT to vote for the candidate I believe in. Regardless of the outcome of the election, I will always be proud of the fact that I cared and that I supported the candidate I felt was best.
In the classic sense of libertarianism, I agree with you. But people like Ron Paul (eve though he is in fact a classic libertarianism/republican) these days IS considered the "crazy ones". Have you even noticed what the Republican party has turned into??? The Bush administration have completely raped it & turned it into something else.And if you think we havent been slowly losing our civil liberties over the last few years, then sorry, but you're a f**king retard.
I still don't know what makes ron paul so great. I'm pro-choice, an atheist, against war, against corporate private interests like Halliburton, all for stricter fuel economy standards, reduced carbon emissions, reduced fossil fuel dependence, and for the development of sustainable alternative energy sources such as solar, wind, geothermal, etc. Somebody please give me a link with a list of everything ron paul supports and is against, and how this makes him any better than the other candidates. I don't want another republican in the office after Bush's horrendous job. I know I'm probably going to get dugg down, but whatever.
I cannot WAIT to quote that when Paul fails to get the nom. You fool. The man wants to abolish Medicare, abolish the minimum wage, ban abortion, deny citizenship to people born in the USA to illegal immigrants, tax everyone the same, repeal tax credits, fail to enact effective environmental policy, and withdraw from the UN (if you whine about Bush disregarding the UN, why doesn't this piss you off?). He also supported the Marriage Protection Act - he's against Gay Marriage. Paul would privatize education (yeah, because that works so well with health care), and basically withdraw the necessary Federal oversight in certain areas of American policy. Paul is taking advantage of your animosity towards the Bush Administration to garner support for policies that would effectively destroy this country.
Closed AccountDec 9, 2007
I cite the polls and voter turn out as evidence that he may mop up in Iowa and NH. The polls are known to be wrong due to land line based polling, yet I've seen him as high as 8%. A large majority of RP supporters aren't reflected in those polls. By how much is anyone's guess. 100% of RP's people will turn out and vote, and at this point, a large majority of them will be campaigning for him right up to election day. And in new Hampshire, there will be a blimp for him floating around the state. This is not true of the other candidates. This will have a significant effect at the polling booth. I don't see how any of the other republican candidates can possibly win. They're also money Bombing him again on Dec 16th - The Tea Party I think they're calling it.
mybacchanaliaDec 9, 2007
#1 conservative (bad type) strategy for countering someone they feel threatened by: call them crazy/whack job/left-wing extremist etc.This gets very tiresome, as you feel like you can totally put down "reality" and "facts" by feebly labelling someone who actually is aware of "reality" and "facts" as a lunatic. You might want to switch it up next time with "Ron Paul is gay" or "Ron Paul is retarded" or some equally compelling insult.
ddawgginDec 10, 2007
Worked at a job and payed taxes? Sounds a little bit more productive.Holding signs has never changed anything.
geneveraDec 10, 2007
First of all, I would just like to remind everyone that if you're sick of reading articles about a certain subject here on Digg, then you do have the choice to NOT read that article. Personally, I find the console or OS debates a little tiring, but I don't feel the need to spam the discussion of those topics, whining about how tired I am of them. If I don't care about a subject, I don't read it. You don't have to either. And if you don't know how to find articles besides those on the front page, then you have bigger worries than what Ron Paul is doing. I think the really interesting thing about the meetup thing is that it proves that Ron Paul is NOT just an internet phenomenon. It's EASY to digg up topics supporting him, or to vote for him on an online poll. What's interesting (and great, in my opinion) is that the people in these meetup groups are actually doing something more than that. They're spreading the word about the candidate they believe in. They're getting together with other supporters and coming up with ways to spread the word in their communities about a candidate that they feel isn't being given a fair shake by the mainstream media. They're taking time out of their own lives and money out of their own pockets to organize and spread the word. That's amazing. I think that suggests that they're not just following an internet fad, like some have claimed. I also think it's extremely naive for anyone to assume that the only people who back Ron Paul are those who are registered with meetup. That's not the case for any candidate. The majority of any candidate's supporters don't join formal support groups, they just quietly go about their business until election day and then go to the polls and vote for the candidate they think is best. One can only hope that, before they get there, they've been given the opportunity to hear the platforms of all the candidates and make an informed decision. If they only get their news from television, then chances are, they haven't had the opportunity to hear every candidate's platforms. If the media is focusing most of their attention on the three front-runners, then that's who they'll vote between. Who's to say they might not have voted differently had they actually had a chance to hear the other candidates views on the issues?Ron Paul wasn't even a blip on the radar for me a month ago. Then I started going to Digg pretty frequently. I kept noticing these articles about him making the front page. At first it was a bit of an annoyance to me, but I got curious. I wanted to know why all these people supported him so much. So, I went to his website and actually read his platforms. The more I thought about it, the more it made sense to me. Now I support him wholeheartedly. I'm going this Tuesday to change my registration from Democrat to Republican just so I can vote for him in the primaries. For a nation that was supposed to be wallowing in apathy, I think it's a wonderful thing that so many people have awakened and started CARING about our nation again. Some of you may be put off by how passionately his supporters feel about him, but at least they are passionate about SOMETHING. And it's something that matters. I mean, come on people, we're talking about who will get to be the next leader of our country.Saying "I like Ron Paul, but I'm not voting for him because I think he's unelectable" is a slap in the face of democracy. You're not supposed to vote for the candidate you think will win, you're supposed to vote for the one you think is best ( I can't believe how many people don't realize that). I accept the fact that he may not win, but I can't choose NOT to vote for the candidate I believe in. Regardless of the outcome of the election, I will always be proud of the fact that I cared and that I supported the candidate I felt was best.
peestandingupDec 10, 2007
In the classic sense of libertarianism, I agree with you. But people like Ron Paul (eve though he is in fact a classic libertarianism/republican) these days IS considered the "crazy ones". Have you even noticed what the Republican party has turned into??? The Bush administration have completely raped it & turned it into something else.And if you think we havent been slowly losing our civil liberties over the last few years, then sorry, but you're a f**king retard.
Closed AccountDec 16, 2007
Well 75,000 for Ron Paul!! Wowies!
tweeDec 17, 2007
I still don't know what makes ron paul so great. I'm pro-choice, an atheist, against war, against corporate private interests like Halliburton, all for stricter fuel economy standards, reduced carbon emissions, reduced fossil fuel dependence, and for the development of sustainable alternative energy sources such as solar, wind, geothermal, etc. Somebody please give me a link with a list of everything ron paul supports and is against, and how this makes him any better than the other candidates. I don't want another republican in the office after Bush's horrendous job. I know I'm probably going to get dugg down, but whatever.
andburn1Dec 18, 2007
I cannot WAIT to quote that when Paul fails to get the nom. You fool. The man wants to abolish Medicare, abolish the minimum wage, ban abortion, deny citizenship to people born in the USA to illegal immigrants, tax everyone the same, repeal tax credits, fail to enact effective environmental policy, and withdraw from the UN (if you whine about Bush disregarding the UN, why doesn't this piss you off?). He also supported the Marriage Protection Act - he's against Gay Marriage. Paul would privatize education (yeah, because that works so well with health care), and basically withdraw the necessary Federal oversight in certain areas of American policy. Paul is taking advantage of your animosity towards the Bush Administration to garner support for policies that would effectively destroy this country.
andburn1Dec 18, 2007
How about the Pew Research Group?Republicans were asked which candidate they would ABSOLUTELY not vote for... guess who won? <a class="user" href="http://people-press.org/reports/images/375-5.gif">http://people-press.org/reports/images/375-5.gif</a>Paul also got 4% among Republicans. This research group is non-partisan, non-profit, and generally one of the most respected polling group in the United States. I'm sorry, Dr. Crazy doesn't have a chance.