news.yahoo.com — A man died of thirst during a wilderness-survival exercise designed to test his physical and mental toughness, even though guides had water. They didn't offer him any because they did not want to spoil the character-building experience.
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gab00nMay 3, 2007
It will for the people who walk across your bridge.
davesbrainMay 3, 2007
You are saying they are not legally responsible for this man's death. You are saying HE is the only person responsible because he did nothing to prepare physically, even though all you have as proof is the statement made by a BOSS member to the Forest Service, and some statements from other participants. The truth is this article does nothing to enlighten us regarding what he did in physical preparation in the months leading up to his participation in the course. I am not jumping to a conclusion here, and have thought this through. He asked for water and was denied by a paid staff member who had water on his person at the time. That staff member could have hollered to the canyon and asked one of the other hikers to bring water, he didn't. He could have brought water, he didn't. He could have given the emergency water, he didn't. He did not a single thing to assist this man as he lay there dying.Even if they knew nothing of his hallucinations, the symptoms of dehydration should have been well know to them, they are, after all, desert survival guides. The ability to ask for water does not also indicate the ability to proceed the final 200 feet to the water source.Your opinion is obviously incorrect, as was theirs, because he died.
Closed AccountMay 3, 2007
All of you twits have really missed the point, here. This wuss wanted to find out how "manly" he was, altho he had already proven himself a coward. He did not want to actually have to make the sacrifices required to prove himself as a man. (You need more than wedding tackle to be a man.) He was playing "pretend", just like these "extreme sportsmen," and, it would seem, a lot of other little girls on this board. If he had really wanted to know if he could "hack it", he should have enlisted in the Marine Corps. They have a way of culling the sisters from the men, and teaching you that you CAN do it, and come out the other side. Dying is easy, quitting is easy, living is hard.
wachter1May 4, 2007
@violentk "This article is more an example of a person being smothered under a 300LB steel bar while his spotter shots at him, 'C'mon lift it! Benchpress that 300LBs! If I help you, you wont learn.'"I do not think that is an appropriate analogy at all. Benchpressing is not sold as a survival test/near death/push the limits type of experience. The spotter's role is to imediately intervene at the first sign that the guy needs help. Everyone knows the IMMEDIATE consequence if the spotter fails to IMMEDIATELY intervene: a broken sternum or worse.In the vast majority of cases of dehydration, a person can recover even after fainting. The guides knew that. This is a rare case. Surely the family will decend like vultures in court. That's the American way.
sremickMay 4, 2007
Wow, I got dugg down for stating a fact? That's pretty lame.
nawheadMay 12, 2007
Digg the parent up. I'm not a survivalist junkie but I was in the Marine infantry and did train for a few weeks in the desert. They told us that if we got lost in the desert to # 1 not friggin try to hike during the daytime # 2 Drink water as much as you can because water in a canteen doesn't help you. Great survival school.
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