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really? because hold'em was one of the last ways I learned to play poker (I suck at all things poker related) and am far less than even an ameture.

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actually, Dax420 is not accurate - the reason programmer's don't trust 'online' or even 'computer' gambling (include those vile little quater poker draw machines all over Vegas) is that they know how hard it is to simulate actual 'random numbers' with a computer... and so most coders cheat and get by with the bare minimum when it comes to having to code 'randomness' in.Unless you're running a massive algorithm that determines the random number based on variable random user inputs, you run up against a more 'predictable' pattern. (Note the word "more" there - it's not hyper-predictable, just more than non-mechanized means.)See, when you're dealing with an actual human dealer, your odds of certain combinations decrease as compared to a computer program.

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Geez sorry it was a passing comment. Didn't really research it just kind of said how I felt. I'll look into it.

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For everyone making the wonderfully astute observation that gambling is rigged to the houses favor, while you are correct for most casino games poker is different and being the third time I think I've mentioned this ill try and explain it simply.In poker you do not play against the house. For every pot (game) that is played the house takes a percentage or fee from the winnings, known as a rake. The house does not play poker, it simply hosts the game and is paid for doing so. Now, consider they get paid no matter who wins, the best business model is to increase the number of hands played thus more profit. By cheating or altering odds to benefit an individual (not even the house) they are likely to turn customers away from their site. Good poker players are intelligent and will notice irregularities in play. The poker company will actually lose more from this than anyone involved in the actual tourney, it is definitely not in their interests to cheat you, they want you to keep playing.

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And by the same token, people should stop posting single hands and trying to declare them obvious proof that the guy was cheating.

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Actually, from what I've read at pocketfives.com, their business hasn't been impacted significantly.

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Well, I've read many of the comments posted here, and have two of my own:1. My understanding is that the cheating at Absolute being exposed has NOT signifcantly impacted their business; still going strong.2. With the amount of money involved, It would be incredibly naive to think that this is the first and only instance of cheating of this sort at any poker site. This is just the first to be proven and widely publicized.

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So what's the bottom line?Cheaters Or not?

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I was one of them, but i have to say i was quite happy when it came to my attention that i had been cheated. I got back more that i ever lost on that site, lol.

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very ignorant comment

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Gambling using an online program without seeing the source code.... Yeah I have trust its not rigged....

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