crooksandliars.com — This clip is a perfect example of why Gov. Mike Huckabee is calling for Maher to be fired, Imus style. Smart=Dangerous In any totalitarian government, intellectuals are among the first casualties. But first, these governments must find a way to marginalize and scapegoat these dangerous brainiacs. Making the word elite an insult is a good start.
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bt1000101Apr 15, 2007
"Bill Maher is a GOD !"Bill Maher is proof that Anal Sex produces children, which actually goes against God. So, I suppose I have to admit that Science won that one.
mrsrobinsonApr 16, 2007
I don't think that a powerful debate tactic is to answer every sentence that appeals to you in an argument. Wouldn't it be better just to debate on the comment as a whole?
Closed AccountApr 16, 2007
Maher is an Imus-second rate-shock jock. His sole purpose is to bash Bush like the many other futile liberals--all talk and no action. Unlike other useless liberals who don't have a large forum to spew their hatred, Maher does. He spews and spews and spews reminding one of a liberal vomit machine--productive ad nauseum but pointless in value. In 25 years, nobody will remember Maher and he will fade into deserved obscurity.
smackheroApr 16, 2007
please cite a few examples of Maher's made up stories. you keep accusing him of being a bigot and propagandist just because he's liberal and he's attacking the political right based on factual statements such as Robertson's well-known homophobic beliefs and Regent University's pitiful reputation--neither of which are made up. if they are, then there must be a vast media conspiracy and conspiracy within all the college ranking organizations.why don't you do a little research on Pat Robertson yourself. the fact that you consider him a respectable man and Maher a bigot is laughable.
smackheroApr 16, 2007
@lastvisibledog: can you refute 99butcher99's claim, which is backed up by many school ranking organizations and by bar exam test scores (last year their pass-rate was still 10% below the Virginia average), or are you just a parrot who can only shout "bigot," which you've already repeated ad nauseam in this thread?<a class="user" href="http://www.boston.com/news/education/higher/articles/2007/04/08/scandal_puts_spotlight_on_christian_law_school/?page=full">http://www.boston.com/news/education/higher/articles/2007/04/08/scandal_puts_spotlight_on_christian_law_school/?page=full</a><a class="user" href="http://www.sullivan-county.com/news/pat_quotes/pat_lie.htm">http://www.sullivan-county.com/news/pat_quotes/pat_lie.htm</a>perhaps instead of resorting to ad hominem attacks you'd like to do some research on the topic, like, for instance, what Regent is all about:<a class="user" href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/04/06/AR2007040601799.html">http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/04/06/AR2007040601799.html</a>let's look at what some Regent alumni have accomplished in government:"One of Ashcroft's most profound changes was to the Civil Rights Division, started in 1957 to fight racial discrimination in voting. Under Ashcroft, career lawyers were systematically fired or forced out and replaced by members of conservative or Christian groups or folks with no civil rights experience. In the five years after 2001, the Civil Rights Division brought no voting cases -- and only one employment case -- on behalf of an African American. Instead, the division took up the "civil rights" abuses of reverse discrimination -- claims of voter fraud or discrimination against Christians. On Feb. 20, Gonzales announced a new initiative called the First Freedom Project to carry out "even greater enforcement of religious rights for all Americans." In his view, the fight for a student's right to read a Bible in school is as urgent as the right to vote."clearly everyone but you is just Maher's puppet and we're all bigots too.
bwatkinsApr 16, 2007
I can't believe I read that many comments. Spockster, I can't believe you weren't called out on not really being a top tier law student. Also, an Econ expert with a poor grasp of the lowest level of statistics. ROFLThe DOJ consists of dead end jobs with long hours, little pay and very little job satisfaction. Most people that go to prestigious schools seek a prestigious job afterward.Experienced attorneys aren't looking for low-paying government jobs unless there is something wrong with them. There is also a trend toward promoting younger people in all types of fields because they generally have less outside distractions. Unmarried with no kids= "Yes, I will work late every night and on weekends, too."There are employers and potential that are impressed with diplomas from top tier schools but there are also people that scoff at those same credentials. Just like politics, most people are somewhere in the middle. Education will usually get your foot in the door, but it doesn't get you the job. You can graduate from any school, in any field and with any class rank and still be anywhere from a genius to a moron.Bush, Clinton, and Obama went top tier. John Edwards and Warren Buffet went to public school. Einstein couldn't get a PhD. from anywhere. I'll let you pick out the morons.A school name is a brand name. It gives you an idea as to the level of quality of their product. Sometimes an expensive car is superior and sometimes its just more expensive.There are also people don't go to what you consider the best schools because of reasons totally unrelated to test scores or grades. Maybe you get a scholarship at one school for tuition vs. paying $60,000/yr at another. Maybe you have a family that you don't want to uproot. Maybe you want to have face to face contact with your professors at a small instead of being handled by their assistants at a large school.Lastly, I must address ideology. Most law schools in the US lean to the left, yet they still produce some right-wing graduates. It is possible that these graduates from a right-wing school could contain left-wingers. Saying that these people are all stupid or all right-wing puppets is no less ignorant than saying, "All (insert race) are (insert prejudiced statement)."
amoiraeApr 16, 2007
The rampant dishonesty of those who claim to be christians that defame others is disgusting.Infantile victims like macfan76 who play the victim while actually being patronizing victimizers poision the well and make through their bluster all sane and truly compassionate christians look bad.While the current republican administration may repeat lies ad infinitum until they're accepted as truth, it will never transubstantiate reality into the perversion they desire.digg me and others like me down, you cowardly bigots. It will not grant you strength or courage. Nor will it make you right.
maxwellpowerApr 16, 2007Submitter
I wasn't actually calling Maher an intellectual. I was simply pointing out that there is a strong anti-intellectual streak among evangelical christians, and that this characteristic is common among totalitarian governments.
jackbean97Apr 18, 2007
I will start off by saying I am a Regent Law Student. I will follow that statement up by proclaiming that I don't know Pat Robertson. In fact, none of the law students do. He has nothing to do with our studies or social lives. A good majority of our students (and even some faculty) think the man is an useless relic of a different era. What he has done in his life and what he has said recently does not really effect my everyday choices.That being said, I want to comment on the Tier 4 ranking. It is true that we are a new law school (somewhere in the ball park of 20 years). Our bar passage rate and LSAT scores are traditionally lower than many higher tier schools. This is to be expected of any new law school. When starting out you have to attract good profs and high quality students. As we get older, we are getting better. Our Mean LSAT for the new classes is around 156 (10 years ago it was under 150). Next year's class will be even better. Why do I bring this up? Because the students who currently attend do not want to be judged by the actions of students (Goodling) who most likely would not get into Regent today (and if she would, she would not be at all competitive with us). I also raise this point because people have to realize how subjective the tier ranking system is. While Bar Passage and LSAT scores are taken into account. The majority of the ranking comes from subjective scoring by Judges, Profs, and Attorneys. Being so new (and being associated with P-Ro) does not help our cause. Heck, last year we won the ABA National Moot Court Championship. This year we won the ABA National Negotiations Championship. You can ask students from our area about our current students, and they will have to tell you that we are competitive. Now, will our ranking go up...who knows. I do know this however, when I pass the bar (which is pretty tough) I will be as qualified as any other attorney out there. I do agree with many people in this post. Having unqualified people run any organization is a bad thing. But to lump in all 150 students without knowing anything about them is harsh.While our motto is Christian Leadership to Change the World, we do not view ourselves the way some people in this post have claimed. Changing the world for me is simply being a good transactional lawyer (contracts and secured transactions). To show anyone I work with that Lawyers period can be good honest folk. For others its representing indigent clients to make sure they have a voice. Yes, we do have a few that want to go into politics and make policy changes, but any law school has those students.So please, I ask you this...take some time to email or call a few current students. Get to know us before you continue to call our school s**tty. We will continue to be ranked a lower tier until Pat is no longer associated with us (even though he does ZERO with the law school).Anyway, that's my ramblings. Thanks for the ear