maba.wordpress.com— Apple's forums are full of people searching for a solution, now it appears that an IT Engineer from Munich, Germany has found the source of the issue.
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Marked as inaccurate. The expansion of a copper or aluminum heatsink at any reasonable temperature for a CPU, would be so incredibly miniscule that I can't possibly imagine it expanding enough to come into contact with another part. Even if the cable was situated 0.1 millimeters from the heatsink, I doubt it would expand that distance.
No offense, Mule King, but you come off like an angry 17-year-old and it seems that you're just posting to troll. If you're telling the truth, then best of luck with getting the situation fixed. Either way, less emotional posting might serve you better in the future.
Even before they got sold to Lenovo I would never again buy a Thinkpad after my terrible experiences my IBM's support (or more specifically, lack of support).I think the random shutdown thing would have been very frustrating for those effected. I'm not sure how that would compare to the shody IBM workmanship with things like cracks in the lid which get made worse by opening and closing, which was my final straw with the Thinkpad. But anyone effected by a serious defect like this has my sympathy.Hopefully the problem is something as simple as this, and hopefully there is an easy solution.
Maybe people buy Apple crap because having a random shutdown turns out to be fractionally better than having a hot plastic thing burst into flames when it is resting just above your crotch? :DAlthough, if given the option of having burning plastic and metal poured into my crotch, or scalding hot coffee, at least with the plastic you'd have a souvenir to explain to the nephews and nieces why you never had any kids of your own...
@rebradYeah. What weirds me out though is the people saying that actually pretty much all laptops are made by Sony (or from Sony parts, or something like that). Aren't Apple in competition with Sony??? Isn't there some kind of massive conflict of interest going on there?I mean, that would be like MS getting Apple to design and field test a bunch of features for their next OS... oh wait...
Lenovo doesn't have great tech support, at least not with their entry-level laptops. Plus hardware wise.. My family has gotten three thinkpads in the past couple of years, both pre-lenovo and post-lenovo, and all of them have had trouble. My t-60 is only a week old and I already want to strangle it. Ah well, perhaps we are just unlucky.
I've never had a problem with an Apple computer... and I've had an LC III, a Performa 5400, a Powerbook 190c, a Powerbook 3400, a Powerbook 5300cs, a B&W Power Mac G3, a Power Mac G4, an iBook G4, two iMac G3's, and (now) an iMac Core Duo. Never a spot of trouble.But I'm not going to be buying an MBP or an MB until I'm positive that the issues are ironed out. I may be a Mac fanboy, but I'm no glutton for punishment ;)
My friend was having a problem with hers shutting down randomly. So, I tried messing around with it a bit. I thought maybe it was over heating? I changed the battery setting to "Better Battery Life" and that did not do much, it went off shortly after. I turned it on again and tried disabling Bluetooth and Wireless, it shut off again. I turned it off then on twice more and after that I had no problem with it. I then tried turning both Bluetooth and Airport on and resetting it again. I set the battery settings back to "Better Performance" and It worked fine for the next 3 hours I had it with me. It may have lasted longer but since then she got it replaced. If anyone is interested in trying it with theirs please do. Maybe there's just a little conflict that's doing it?PS: Sorry if I waste your time and it was pure dumb luck. =)
This is definitely not a heat problem since I can be on my Macbook for hours and running it heavily without a hitch and some times simply turn the Macbook on and after 5 min., it just shuts down. Restart and before it even gets to boot completely it shutsdown. Try again, and it's up for hours again even under heavy load. Don't know what the issue is but it most definitely is not a heat problem. My Macbook is of the batch with the issue and is in for repair. Just an FYI.
Not sure if this has been mentioned already. But has anyone tried cleaning the fan in the MacBook? I was experiencing the same issues. Apple told me to replace the logic board, when all it needed was a good clean. It is temperature related, even though Apple denied it. It's just a suffocated fan!Give it a go, sorted my machine right out. Check out the pictures I took when I opened my MacBook... they don' even suggest that it could be a blocked fan. <a class="user" href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/34062116@N06/sets/72157612211873280/">http://www.flickr.com/photos/34062116@N06/sets/721 ...</a>
cryptySep 4, 2006
Marked as inaccurate. The expansion of a copper or aluminum heatsink at any reasonable temperature for a CPU, would be so incredibly miniscule that I can't possibly imagine it expanding enough to come into contact with another part. Even if the cable was situated 0.1 millimeters from the heatsink, I doubt it would expand that distance.
inkswampSep 4, 2006
No offense, Mule King, but you come off like an angry 17-year-old and it seems that you're just posting to troll. If you're telling the truth, then best of luck with getting the situation fixed. Either way, less emotional posting might serve you better in the future.
rickcarsonSep 4, 2006
Even before they got sold to Lenovo I would never again buy a Thinkpad after my terrible experiences my IBM's support (or more specifically, lack of support).I think the random shutdown thing would have been very frustrating for those effected. I'm not sure how that would compare to the shody IBM workmanship with things like cracks in the lid which get made worse by opening and closing, which was my final straw with the Thinkpad. But anyone effected by a serious defect like this has my sympathy.Hopefully the problem is something as simple as this, and hopefully there is an easy solution.
rickcarsonSep 4, 2006
Maybe people buy Apple crap because having a random shutdown turns out to be fractionally better than having a hot plastic thing burst into flames when it is resting just above your crotch? :DAlthough, if given the option of having burning plastic and metal poured into my crotch, or scalding hot coffee, at least with the plastic you'd have a souvenir to explain to the nephews and nieces why you never had any kids of your own...
rickcarsonSep 4, 2006
@rebradYeah. What weirds me out though is the people saying that actually pretty much all laptops are made by Sony (or from Sony parts, or something like that). Aren't Apple in competition with Sony??? Isn't there some kind of massive conflict of interest going on there?I mean, that would be like MS getting Apple to design and field test a bunch of features for their next OS... oh wait...
megganiSep 4, 2006
Lenovo doesn't have great tech support, at least not with their entry-level laptops. Plus hardware wise.. My family has gotten three thinkpads in the past couple of years, both pre-lenovo and post-lenovo, and all of them have had trouble. My t-60 is only a week old and I already want to strangle it. Ah well, perhaps we are just unlucky.
kalisphoenixSep 5, 2006
I've never had a problem with an Apple computer... and I've had an LC III, a Performa 5400, a Powerbook 190c, a Powerbook 3400, a Powerbook 5300cs, a B&W Power Mac G3, a Power Mac G4, an iBook G4, two iMac G3's, and (now) an iMac Core Duo. Never a spot of trouble.But I'm not going to be buying an MBP or an MB until I'm positive that the issues are ironed out. I may be a Mac fanboy, but I'm no glutton for punishment ;)
Closed AccountSep 6, 2006
My friend was having a problem with hers shutting down randomly. So, I tried messing around with it a bit. I thought maybe it was over heating? I changed the battery setting to "Better Battery Life" and that did not do much, it went off shortly after. I turned it on again and tried disabling Bluetooth and Wireless, it shut off again. I turned it off then on twice more and after that I had no problem with it. I then tried turning both Bluetooth and Airport on and resetting it again. I set the battery settings back to "Better Performance" and It worked fine for the next 3 hours I had it with me. It may have lasted longer but since then she got it replaced. If anyone is interested in trying it with theirs please do. Maybe there's just a little conflict that's doing it?PS: Sorry if I waste your time and it was pure dumb luck. =)
anthony0Oct 1, 2006
This is definitely not a heat problem since I can be on my Macbook for hours and running it heavily without a hitch and some times simply turn the Macbook on and after 5 min., it just shuts down. Restart and before it even gets to boot completely it shutsdown. Try again, and it's up for hours again even under heavy load. Don't know what the issue is but it most definitely is not a heat problem. My Macbook is of the batch with the issue and is in for repair. Just an FYI.
rome420May 14, 2008
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tomprocterFeb 14, 2009
Not sure if this has been mentioned already. But has anyone tried cleaning the fan in the MacBook? I was experiencing the same issues. Apple told me to replace the logic board, when all it needed was a good clean. It is temperature related, even though Apple denied it. It's just a suffocated fan!Give it a go, sorted my machine right out. Check out the pictures I took when I opened my MacBook... they don' even suggest that it could be a blocked fan. <a class="user" href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/34062116@N06/sets/72157612211873280/">http://www.flickr.com/photos/34062116@N06/sets/721 ...</a>