macscoop.com— Sources close to the development of Mac OS X Leopard in Cupertino have provided to MacScoop the project's roadmap until the release, which is scheduled on late October.
Jun 23, 2007View in Crawl 4
of course... you realize the reason it hasn't been released yet is for these very reasons. Experienced *nix users that have problems with it are exactly who apple wants testing this thing out. So make sure you report the problems. This isn't a ready to use OS... this is a stage in development.
Yeah its a beta, but i still expected better. On tiger, i can click network and pick up my ubuntu box easlisy. With leopard i can't i checked every setting possible and it just doesnt seem to work. The leopard dock is exactly the same except it has the shiny square under it (pointless) the drawer is ok. The look is better, but still permissions are a pain and not that easy to get working correctly. Point is , tiger networking works great, and now in leopard, (so far) its not so great. How could it of got worse? I was hoping for a tabbed finder, (didnt happen)
What I don't seem to get is the endless supply of Mac fanboys that jump to the Finder's defense with all manner of reasons why the lack of a location bar is really a good thing because of the plethora of workarounds for it. You might very well be happy to open a Terminal window to compensate for the Finder, but I don't usually drop to a DOS prompt to accomplish my file management tasks in Windows because Explorer usually lets me see where I am and I can drag files from one window to another quickly and easily with the assurance that I'm dragging from the correct folder because its location is right there in front of my eyes - no having to command-click on the title bar each time I want to be sure I have the right window.I've said it before here on digg but I'll say it again. Let's assume that I work regularly with multiple web sites though the Finder, with shares and files such as these:afp://server1/htdocs/index.htmlafp://server2/htdocs/index.htmlafp://server3/htdocs/index.htmlNow, how do you suppose I could easily tell which web site is which if all three Finder windows are titled "htdocs"? Being a Mac fanboy, I suppose you'll tell me to use the colouring feature in Finder to differentiate between them, or command-click on the title of each window each time I want to make sure I'm looking at the htdocs window for a particular server... This, to me, is just plain ridiculous. Using the same reasoning, icons for files should all be white with no markings and each time I want to see if the file is a web page or a Word document I should command-click it to reveal a drop-down menu listing its MIME type. THIS is the kind of reasoning I just don't understand!I actually reckon that Apple are pissed off that they didn't think of the location bar idea first, and since every other operating system has it, Steve Jobs just can't bring himself to allow such an innovation because it'll be seen as catching up. So, to save Steve's pride, he's just going to put up with rubbish and pretend it's not a problem.
@mfearby: "You might very well be happy to open a Terminal window to compensate for the Finder, but I don't usually drop to a DOS prompt to accomplish my file management tasks in Windows..."I wouldn't do that either, but that's because the command line in Windows sucks (BTW, it's not true DOS anymore, just thought you'd like to know)."Now, how do you suppose I could easily tell which web site is which if all three Finder windows are titled "htdocs""There IS more than one way to view files in Finder. Perhaps you would find column view more suitable to your needs. Yes, there are workarounds to problems, and most of us are fine with them. If you truly don't like it, then don't use a Mac or fix it yourself, it's as simple as that.
Wow that roadmap revealed .... absolutely nothing. Aside from generalizations, like that it'll undergo testing in the weeks before release (duh), nothing too amazing was mentioned.
nick2Jun 23, 2007
I can't wait for an exact release day so I can begin a countdown!
joshparJun 23, 2007
of course... you realize the reason it hasn't been released yet is for these very reasons. Experienced *nix users that have problems with it are exactly who apple wants testing this thing out. So make sure you report the problems. This isn't a ready to use OS... this is a stage in development.
Closed AccountJun 24, 2007
Yeah its a beta, but i still expected better. On tiger, i can click network and pick up my ubuntu box easlisy. With leopard i can't i checked every setting possible and it just doesnt seem to work. The leopard dock is exactly the same except it has the shiny square under it (pointless) the drawer is ok. The look is better, but still permissions are a pain and not that easy to get working correctly. Point is , tiger networking works great, and now in leopard, (so far) its not so great. How could it of got worse? I was hoping for a tabbed finder, (didnt happen)
mfearbyJun 24, 2007
What I don't seem to get is the endless supply of Mac fanboys that jump to the Finder's defense with all manner of reasons why the lack of a location bar is really a good thing because of the plethora of workarounds for it. You might very well be happy to open a Terminal window to compensate for the Finder, but I don't usually drop to a DOS prompt to accomplish my file management tasks in Windows because Explorer usually lets me see where I am and I can drag files from one window to another quickly and easily with the assurance that I'm dragging from the correct folder because its location is right there in front of my eyes - no having to command-click on the title bar each time I want to be sure I have the right window.I've said it before here on digg but I'll say it again. Let's assume that I work regularly with multiple web sites though the Finder, with shares and files such as these:afp://server1/htdocs/index.htmlafp://server2/htdocs/index.htmlafp://server3/htdocs/index.htmlNow, how do you suppose I could easily tell which web site is which if all three Finder windows are titled "htdocs"? Being a Mac fanboy, I suppose you'll tell me to use the colouring feature in Finder to differentiate between them, or command-click on the title of each window each time I want to make sure I'm looking at the htdocs window for a particular server... This, to me, is just plain ridiculous. Using the same reasoning, icons for files should all be white with no markings and each time I want to see if the file is a web page or a Word document I should command-click it to reveal a drop-down menu listing its MIME type. THIS is the kind of reasoning I just don't understand!I actually reckon that Apple are pissed off that they didn't think of the location bar idea first, and since every other operating system has it, Steve Jobs just can't bring himself to allow such an innovation because it'll be seen as catching up. So, to save Steve's pride, he's just going to put up with rubbish and pretend it's not a problem.
mscmanJun 24, 2007
@mfearby: "You might very well be happy to open a Terminal window to compensate for the Finder, but I don't usually drop to a DOS prompt to accomplish my file management tasks in Windows..."I wouldn't do that either, but that's because the command line in Windows sucks (BTW, it's not true DOS anymore, just thought you'd like to know)."Now, how do you suppose I could easily tell which web site is which if all three Finder windows are titled "htdocs""There IS more than one way to view files in Finder. Perhaps you would find column view more suitable to your needs. Yes, there are workarounds to problems, and most of us are fine with them. If you truly don't like it, then don't use a Mac or fix it yourself, it's as simple as that.
takuroJun 24, 2007
Wow that roadmap revealed .... absolutely nothing. Aside from generalizations, like that it'll undergo testing in the weeks before release (duh), nothing too amazing was mentioned.
nosferatuzJun 25, 2007
another delay! this sounds bad... looks like the right time to move to Vista!