softwaretrenches.com— Roustem Karimov describes his personal experience with promoting his shareware product on MacHeist and MacZOT! The results will surprise you.
Nov 21, 2006View in Crawl 4
Misleading? The title had some interesting punctuation at the end of it:> MacHeist Hurts Shareware?And in the description I said the results will surprise you:> Roustem Karimov describes his personal experience > with promoting his shareware product on MacHeist and > MacZOT! The results will surprise you.I said they would surprise you b/c the only thing I see on digg lately is anti-"Delicious Generation" comments, which is complete BS.Bury the post and move on, but don't tell me I'm Phill's cronie.
Gruber appears to be a very thoughtful guy. However, I'm not sure he's seeing all the angles in his pinprick article. It often happens when you have to get a blog entry up and try to be relevant to the conversation at hand. What articles like this completely ignore is the voice of the market.Basically put, if the market receives the idea well, it doesn't matter that the bloggers in the ivory towers didn't think of it first or that they have a differing perspective. If MacZOT.com or MacHeist were just stupid ideas, the market would tell them immediately - they would simply ignore the ideas.However, there are lots of reasons a discount for promotional reasons works and definitely cases it doesn't make sense. It makes a lot of sense when the application is good enough to tell others about.Can you really lay down one blog post, one opinion, and cover every situation?
I think MacHeist can only help Mac shareware. Many of these apps are relatively unknown. I think it only helps the developers get the exposure that they need. Most importantly the developers made an agreement with MacHeist to give away their applications. A few of the apps so far are locked from future upgrades. This allows people to try out the full version of an app and buy a future upgrade if they liked it.
I have a job writing free software. Special purpose custom software in my case. That's where most of the programming jobs are. Writing proprietary apps is a small fraction of the job market. As more people switch to free software the industry will become more efficient thus creating more jobs in other sectors and compensating for the loss of jobs in proprietary app sector.
roustkNov 22, 2006
This thread in the MacHeist forum is also very interesting:<a class="user" href="http://macheist.com/forums/viewtopic.php?id=901">http://macheist.com/forums/viewtopic.php?id=901</a>
anonymouse91Nov 22, 2006
<a class="user" href="http://www.duggmirror.com">http://www.duggmirror.com</a>
roustkNov 22, 2006
Looks like you are in the wrong thread. Try to look in Science/Health
dteareNov 22, 2006Submitter
Misleading? The title had some interesting punctuation at the end of it:> MacHeist Hurts Shareware?And in the description I said the results will surprise you:> Roustem Karimov describes his personal experience > with promoting his shareware product on MacHeist and > MacZOT! The results will surprise you.I said they would surprise you b/c the only thing I see on digg lately is anti-"Delicious Generation" comments, which is complete BS.Bury the post and move on, but don't tell me I'm Phill's cronie.
fr0ggerNov 22, 2006
um ... Free Software ... anyone heard of Free Software? ... like ... um ... Linux?
Closed AccountNov 22, 2006
Ever heard of a job? Software developers make money selling software. Must be an alien concept to you.
ideabrianNov 22, 2006
Gruber appears to be a very thoughtful guy. However, I'm not sure he's seeing all the angles in his pinprick article. It often happens when you have to get a blog entry up and try to be relevant to the conversation at hand. What articles like this completely ignore is the voice of the market.Basically put, if the market receives the idea well, it doesn't matter that the bloggers in the ivory towers didn't think of it first or that they have a differing perspective. If MacZOT.com or MacHeist were just stupid ideas, the market would tell them immediately - they would simply ignore the ideas.However, there are lots of reasons a discount for promotional reasons works and definitely cases it doesn't make sense. It makes a lot of sense when the application is good enough to tell others about.Can you really lay down one blog post, one opinion, and cover every situation?
gaucho4Nov 23, 2006
I think MacHeist can only help Mac shareware. Many of these apps are relatively unknown. I think it only helps the developers get the exposure that they need. Most importantly the developers made an agreement with MacHeist to give away their applications. A few of the apps so far are locked from future upgrades. This allows people to try out the full version of an app and buy a future upgrade if they liked it.
fr0ggerNov 27, 2006
I have a job writing free software. Special purpose custom software in my case. That's where most of the programming jobs are. Writing proprietary apps is a small fraction of the job market. As more people switch to free software the industry will become more efficient thus creating more jobs in other sectors and compensating for the loss of jobs in proprietary app sector.