news.com.com— Shane Macaulay just got himself a free MacBook. Macaulay, a software engineer, was able to hack into a MacBook through a zero-day security hole in Apple's Safari browser.
Apr 20, 2007View in Crawl 4
Can Apple sheeple actually read and comprehend? You (Kris33) sure make people wonder after your comments. Your basic level of reading comprehension is horrendous.
@dbr: Sorry, but you are wrong. I did a write-up on this that got dugg to the frontpage a month ago. By default, several services -are- enabled, and the firewall isn't. Several other 'features' can present risks as well.
No no no. Get it right.Apple is for the rich bastards._Linux_ is for those with repressed or dubious sexuality.Windows is for irresponsible morons._Amiga_ is for the dickwads.Honestly, do people even read the flamewar faqs anymore???
And so it goes. Mac apologists making excuses, Winfanboys chortling with glee and nothing really earth-shattering has happened.Wow, OS X was compromised at a hacker conference...um...so what? Is any Digg Mac or Windows user running with this kind of configuration or are they pretty much smart enough to take precautions since no OS is perfect or completely secure.Oh wait, Digg Mac and Windows fanboys have nothing better to do with their lives that come up with moronic ways to put down each other's OSes even though they know (or should) that anything is crackable given enough time.
I personally think the denial is hilarious...AND I'M A MAC OS X USER to the core. I've been using Macs since before a lot of these people here were little more than their Papa's imagination...and I've never seen a more foolhardy group then this New Generation of screaming crazies we've got now. I thought Ragosta's usenet posts back in the day were bad....sheesh.Look guys, "we got got" as the saying goes. I was talking to some of my more saavy friends, programmers that should *know better*...and all I heard Friday night was..."but...but...but...but...but..." and if it was *inconceivable* that this could happen....but no one could tell me *why* :)Let's go over the dismissals, then...starting with my 2nd favorite:"Its 'just' a Safari bug...so what?"Well...we know this to be untrue...but what's worse, *anyone can write an app* that can call a url, kids. Happy fun buried gotcha time ensues. Some nasty person writes an "ooo shiny" that the web goes ga-ga over that 3 weeks later puts it in ya deep. Ask a Windows guy...they'll tell ya.My favorite, tho, and the one that shows the high level of self-delusion is this one:"No 'root' no biggie...who cares?"This is mostly folks parroting what they read on a blog somewhere. Any fool knows that 1. Nobody runs routinely as root. 2. The way you do hard "damage" to a machine and its users is f**king with THEIR FILES, not the systems. You can do a reinstall, but Jr's First Steps or that massive music collection from Classic Yodelers of the 20's don't come on the OS install disk...ya' dig?MacOS X *users* get attacked far more than the OS itself due to their arrogance more so than anything else. We should be THANKFUL that this was found in a controlled environment...by responsible MAC PEOPLE (yes...that's right...not some Mac Hatin' Windows Guys. Mac People. Remember that) and will likely be patched before anyone can do damage.This Mac User saw it coming...but also knew it would be no good.To all you other OS people throwing your arms up in disgust and disbelief: Don't worry about it. Sadly, the OS X general userbase will NEVER acknowledge these things...until some piece of s**t does harm, in a major way, without warning.Its sad, but true :(
"Furthermore, people shouldn't run an admin root account unless they know what they're doing."People shouldn't run as admin/root even if they do know what they're doing. If they are running as admin/root, then they don't know what they are doing.
darcyApr 21, 2007
Well, it's true what they say. Mac users really are more creative than PC users, especially when comes to making excuses.
deuteriumApr 21, 2007
Can Apple sheeple actually read and comprehend? You (Kris33) sure make people wonder after your comments. Your basic level of reading comprehension is horrendous.
califormApr 21, 2007
@dbr: Sorry, but you are wrong. I did a write-up on this that got dugg to the frontpage a month ago. By default, several services -are- enabled, and the firewall isn't. Several other 'features' can present risks as well.
mdollarsignApr 21, 2007
I'm dizzy from all the spinning in the comments.
aliarseApr 21, 2007
And here come the Apple fanboys....
shark615Apr 21, 2007
Windows XP has the firewall enabled by default and no macs do not come configured with a hardware firewall out of the box.
rickcarsonApr 22, 2007
No no no. Get it right.Apple is for the rich bastards._Linux_ is for those with repressed or dubious sexuality.Windows is for irresponsible morons._Amiga_ is for the dickwads.Honestly, do people even read the flamewar faqs anymore???
macparrotApr 22, 2007
And so it goes. Mac apologists making excuses, Winfanboys chortling with glee and nothing really earth-shattering has happened.Wow, OS X was compromised at a hacker conference...um...so what? Is any Digg Mac or Windows user running with this kind of configuration or are they pretty much smart enough to take precautions since no OS is perfect or completely secure.Oh wait, Digg Mac and Windows fanboys have nothing better to do with their lives that come up with moronic ways to put down each other's OSes even though they know (or should) that anything is crackable given enough time.
darktenApr 22, 2007
I personally think the denial is hilarious...AND I'M A MAC OS X USER to the core. I've been using Macs since before a lot of these people here were little more than their Papa's imagination...and I've never seen a more foolhardy group then this New Generation of screaming crazies we've got now. I thought Ragosta's usenet posts back in the day were bad....sheesh.Look guys, "we got got" as the saying goes. I was talking to some of my more saavy friends, programmers that should *know better*...and all I heard Friday night was..."but...but...but...but...but..." and if it was *inconceivable* that this could happen....but no one could tell me *why* :)Let's go over the dismissals, then...starting with my 2nd favorite:"Its 'just' a Safari bug...so what?"Well...we know this to be untrue...but what's worse, *anyone can write an app* that can call a url, kids. Happy fun buried gotcha time ensues. Some nasty person writes an "ooo shiny" that the web goes ga-ga over that 3 weeks later puts it in ya deep. Ask a Windows guy...they'll tell ya.My favorite, tho, and the one that shows the high level of self-delusion is this one:"No 'root' no biggie...who cares?"This is mostly folks parroting what they read on a blog somewhere. Any fool knows that 1. Nobody runs routinely as root. 2. The way you do hard "damage" to a machine and its users is f**king with THEIR FILES, not the systems. You can do a reinstall, but Jr's First Steps or that massive music collection from Classic Yodelers of the 20's don't come on the OS install disk...ya' dig?MacOS X *users* get attacked far more than the OS itself due to their arrogance more so than anything else. We should be THANKFUL that this was found in a controlled environment...by responsible MAC PEOPLE (yes...that's right...not some Mac Hatin' Windows Guys. Mac People. Remember that) and will likely be patched before anyone can do damage.This Mac User saw it coming...but also knew it would be no good.To all you other OS people throwing your arms up in disgust and disbelief: Don't worry about it. Sadly, the OS X general userbase will NEVER acknowledge these things...until some piece of s**t does harm, in a major way, without warning.Its sad, but true :(
r3zonanceApr 23, 2007
"Furthermore, people shouldn't run an admin root account unless they know what they're doing."People shouldn't run as admin/root even if they do know what they're doing. If they are running as admin/root, then they don't know what they are doing.
roundobiaApr 23, 2007
The hole is not in the safari web browser, but in the page crafted by it. This is not a true hack.