Forgot to mention that one of the principle creators of Lotus Notes, Ray Ozzie, is now the Chief Software Architect at Microsoft. Makes you think, doesn't it...
This is excellent news from IBM. There are dozens of workstations around our company that can now be converted to Linux desktops. Lotus Notes was the only application keeping those workstations on Windows. IBM is saying today's version of Lotus Notes will run in the Eclipse framework on Linux, and is fully supported. An enterprise mail client and collaboration platform on Linux (client & server). That's huge!I see many people complaining about Notes crashes here, or otherwise bashing it. After I read this article, I asked our Notes Admin about crashes. She said there's a log file (mailbox) that records any client crashes. We have 1200 workstations, and there was 1 client crash in the past 90 days. If the rest of you have such bad admins, I think I'll give her a raise.Lotus Notes "Hannover" will be released next year, and runs on the Eclipse platform. The UI is finally getting an overhaul. Eclipse jarheads will be able to write their own plug-ins. We'll see if IBM hits a homer, or blows it.Supporters always say how an ancient Lotus Notes application can still run today. Yes, the backwards compatibility is amazing, but if you have not updated your application in years, I feel bad for your end-users. Our applications are continually updated, and we solicit feedback from everyone. I guess our company is just different and better managed than most.
Keep in mind that IBM is probably still the biggest customer of Lotus products out there. Now that they finally have a native Notes client for Linux, they can finally start a serious attempt at weaning their employees off of Windows for their desktops and laptops.
lotus notes/domino has its strengths and lots of them. user friendliness did not used to be one of them. its exceptional versatility aggravated situation by causing often times mis-application by underqualified (or, frankly, overenthusiastic) staff.but truth of the matter remains that lotus domino (which is the server, "lotus notes" is the client) is one of the most stable pieces of server software you'll ever use and it runs wide circles around exchange+iis with respect to performance and security. i've not lost a single email message since circa 1997 (sheesh, thats nearly ten years!) which of course lotus notes isnt just about email.anyhow, be sure to take frustrated comments of some of diggers with a grain of sault. lotus notes is a solid product, no doubt about that. and the next release (hannover) is going to be fantastic, i can't wait.
IMO v3/4 were the best - the best part about Notes was the ease of creating databases and discussions long before blogs and WIKIs ever existed. Sadly, Lotus/IBM never understood that it is people not corporations that drive forward the adoption of that kind of application. They should have released a "personal" version at reduced cost and aimed it at end users.v5 was a UI disaster and I've not used it since. We are only just beginning to see equivalent tools though so it was well ahead of its time.
It is based on the eclipse platform, and something that amazes me about the eclipse platform is that somehow it looks great in screenshots but when you are actually using it - it looks horrible.
I have seen a couple of respondents writing that they have configured Thunderbird for accessing Notes. I know our Domino server has IMAP turned on. I have not been able to figure out the correct settings for doing so. I'd really like to use Thunderbird for at least the e-mail portion of what Notes is supposed to do--I don't give a hoot about the databases. Any takers?
"Nothing can beat it as a Rapid Application Dev tool. Sure, the email client isn't as good as Outlook, but Lotus Notes is so much more than an email client"That's about the best argument against Notes. Users first and foremost need an email client.
scutterJul 10, 2006
Forgot to mention that one of the principle creators of Lotus Notes, Ray Ozzie, is now the Chief Software Architect at Microsoft. Makes you think, doesn't it...
tessilJul 11, 2006
This is excellent news from IBM. There are dozens of workstations around our company that can now be converted to Linux desktops. Lotus Notes was the only application keeping those workstations on Windows. IBM is saying today's version of Lotus Notes will run in the Eclipse framework on Linux, and is fully supported. An enterprise mail client and collaboration platform on Linux (client & server). That's huge!I see many people complaining about Notes crashes here, or otherwise bashing it. After I read this article, I asked our Notes Admin about crashes. She said there's a log file (mailbox) that records any client crashes. We have 1200 workstations, and there was 1 client crash in the past 90 days. If the rest of you have such bad admins, I think I'll give her a raise.Lotus Notes "Hannover" will be released next year, and runs on the Eclipse platform. The UI is finally getting an overhaul. Eclipse jarheads will be able to write their own plug-ins. We'll see if IBM hits a homer, or blows it.Supporters always say how an ancient Lotus Notes application can still run today. Yes, the backwards compatibility is amazing, but if you have not updated your application in years, I feel bad for your end-users. Our applications are continually updated, and we solicit feedback from everyone. I guess our company is just different and better managed than most.
mrkiteJul 11, 2006
This is the perfect new platform for Linux. An old, clunky, bloated piece of software that doesn't follow any user interface guidelines whatsoever.
Closed AccountJul 11, 2006
LOL! Good one!
leonbevJul 11, 2006
Keep in mind that IBM is probably still the biggest customer of Lotus products out there. Now that they finally have a native Notes client for Linux, they can finally start a serious attempt at weaning their employees off of Windows for their desktops and laptops.
leanwebJul 11, 2006
lotus notes/domino has its strengths and lots of them. user friendliness did not used to be one of them. its exceptional versatility aggravated situation by causing often times mis-application by underqualified (or, frankly, overenthusiastic) staff.but truth of the matter remains that lotus domino (which is the server, "lotus notes" is the client) is one of the most stable pieces of server software you'll ever use and it runs wide circles around exchange+iis with respect to performance and security. i've not lost a single email message since circa 1997 (sheesh, thats nearly ten years!) which of course lotus notes isnt just about email.anyhow, be sure to take frustrated comments of some of diggers with a grain of sault. lotus notes is a solid product, no doubt about that. and the next release (hannover) is going to be fantastic, i can't wait.
knightnetJul 11, 2006
IMO v3/4 were the best - the best part about Notes was the ease of creating databases and discussions long before blogs and WIKIs ever existed. Sadly, Lotus/IBM never understood that it is people not corporations that drive forward the adoption of that kind of application. They should have released a "personal" version at reduced cost and aimed it at end users.v5 was a UI disaster and I've not used it since. We are only just beginning to see equivalent tools though so it was well ahead of its time.
Closed AccountJul 11, 2006
It is based on the eclipse platform, and something that amazes me about the eclipse platform is that somehow it looks great in screenshots but when you are actually using it - it looks horrible.
jamesisinJul 26, 2006
I have seen a couple of respondents writing that they have configured Thunderbird for accessing Notes. I know our Domino server has IMAP turned on. I have not been able to figure out the correct settings for doing so. I'd really like to use Thunderbird for at least the e-mail portion of what Notes is supposed to do--I don't give a hoot about the databases. Any takers?
happyrobotAug 4, 2006
"Nothing can beat it as a Rapid Application Dev tool. Sure, the email client isn't as good as Outlook, but Lotus Notes is so much more than an email client"That's about the best argument against Notes. Users first and foremost need an email client.