unsanity.org— Why is your old 15.1" better than Apple's new Intel-based MacBook? Unsanity lays it out concisely and without ambiguity.
Jan 11, 2006View in Crawl 4
@betterth:Well, it took me a minute to let my eyes adjust to that seriously horrific website, but it seems like they have pretty good options on PC laptops.I don't know which manufacturer you were choosing, but I don't think trying to match specs on paper is the whole story. More RAM in the PC, so that's a plus. I doubt the Pentium M is going to keep up with the Dual Core processor in the Mac, but it's probably a good CPU nonetheless.Bigger hard drive in the PC, so there's a check in that column.geForce 6600? I don't know more details, but I'm guessing it's not going to be driving an external 30" screen at full resolution like the MacBook will. USB webcam != built-in iSight. I could start checking down the list of every difference, but that wasn't really sinfony's point anyway.His(?) comment was "The Mac laptop that I've been waiting for is the one that gives me a decent product at a cost that isn't ridiculously out of proportion to the quality of what I'm getting."You showed a good system at the same price as the Mac, which is arguably either equal, slightly better, or slightly worse than the $1999 MacBook. I'd say that is a damn strong argument that the MacBook isn't "ridiculously out of proportion" - it's exactly what sinfony claims to be "waiting for."Though I doubt that would make any difference to sinfony, since his(?) statement seemed pretty much flamebait in the first place. Oh well. Thanks for the link to the good laptop store anyhow.
That article is pointless. Those new MacBooks are awesome. No FW800? Who cares-all the devices work on 400, and an adapter cable is about 15 bucks. Even in the previous PowerBooks there was only one FW bus, so you aren't losing THAT much bandwidth. Stop whining.No s-video? Again, who cares, you can get an adapter for 15 bucks.No f**king modem, christ this is 2000 f**king 6, if you still use a dial up modem you are an idiot. I have been wondering why they didn't drop modems sooner, it is just an ugly hole in the side of my PowerBook. And what... what is that sound... Oh, it's a USB adapter.So what Apple has done, is eliminated all the iffy features that only about 2% of the 2% of people who use Macs actually used, and made it cleaner looking for all of us. If you can afford the 'Book, you can afford the adapter. Let's talk about the good things, wait... there are too many to make a brief list with.assh**e.
@itchyfeet said:"No FW800 is a serious "f*ck you" to professional / audio/video Users. I think Jobs is gambling that the yuppie "I don't mind paying 2000$ more for a shiny case" market is worth more than the professional "I will pay that much money because I need the features for my job"."If you want a f**king FW 800 port get a G5 tower. Professional audio/video users tend to stay stationary while they edit there work. And how is the new mac "LESS". It's obviously a step forward for Apple, and it beats the F*CK outa the PB G4.
I don't miss the parallel port, serial port, ISA slot, or the like. They were not easy to part with at first but we have smaller, faster, and better now. Apple has dropped the items it feels are the least used and is focusing on tech that is dominant / emerging. Welcome to the ever changing world of computers...
The lack of FW800 does seem like a daft omision, unless you're an Apple apologist. I'm somewhat late at realising it doesn't even have it. FW800 is faster: <a class="user" href="http://www.barefeats.com/5472.html">http://www.barefeats.com/5472.html</a>I suppose the thought is; most high end stuff will take place on desktop models, and perhaps FW800 will turn up in the 17" or future generation, rather than be dropped. Or, maybe something new.Speed, isn't just for high end professionals, or everyone would've been happy with the G4.
alex_bosworthJan 12, 2006
no svideo out???
felchdonkeyJan 12, 2006
@betterth:Well, it took me a minute to let my eyes adjust to that seriously horrific website, but it seems like they have pretty good options on PC laptops.I don't know which manufacturer you were choosing, but I don't think trying to match specs on paper is the whole story. More RAM in the PC, so that's a plus. I doubt the Pentium M is going to keep up with the Dual Core processor in the Mac, but it's probably a good CPU nonetheless.Bigger hard drive in the PC, so there's a check in that column.geForce 6600? I don't know more details, but I'm guessing it's not going to be driving an external 30" screen at full resolution like the MacBook will. USB webcam != built-in iSight. I could start checking down the list of every difference, but that wasn't really sinfony's point anyway.His(?) comment was "The Mac laptop that I've been waiting for is the one that gives me a decent product at a cost that isn't ridiculously out of proportion to the quality of what I'm getting."You showed a good system at the same price as the Mac, which is arguably either equal, slightly better, or slightly worse than the $1999 MacBook. I'd say that is a damn strong argument that the MacBook isn't "ridiculously out of proportion" - it's exactly what sinfony claims to be "waiting for."Though I doubt that would make any difference to sinfony, since his(?) statement seemed pretty much flamebait in the first place. Oh well. Thanks for the link to the good laptop store anyhow.
nate85Jan 12, 2006
That article is pointless. Those new MacBooks are awesome. No FW800? Who cares-all the devices work on 400, and an adapter cable is about 15 bucks. Even in the previous PowerBooks there was only one FW bus, so you aren't losing THAT much bandwidth. Stop whining.No s-video? Again, who cares, you can get an adapter for 15 bucks.No f**king modem, christ this is 2000 f**king 6, if you still use a dial up modem you are an idiot. I have been wondering why they didn't drop modems sooner, it is just an ugly hole in the side of my PowerBook. And what... what is that sound... Oh, it's a USB adapter.So what Apple has done, is eliminated all the iffy features that only about 2% of the 2% of people who use Macs actually used, and made it cleaner looking for all of us. If you can afford the 'Book, you can afford the adapter. Let's talk about the good things, wait... there are too many to make a brief list with.assh**e.
knyghtfyreJan 12, 2006
@itchyfeet said:"No FW800 is a serious "f*ck you" to professional / audio/video Users. I think Jobs is gambling that the yuppie "I don't mind paying 2000$ more for a shiny case" market is worth more than the professional "I will pay that much money because I need the features for my job"."If you want a f**king FW 800 port get a G5 tower. Professional audio/video users tend to stay stationary while they edit there work. And how is the new mac "LESS". It's obviously a step forward for Apple, and it beats the F*CK outa the PB G4.
shultzmanJan 12, 2006
I don't miss the parallel port, serial port, ISA slot, or the like. They were not easy to part with at first but we have smaller, faster, and better now. Apple has dropped the items it feels are the least used and is focusing on tech that is dominant / emerging. Welcome to the ever changing world of computers...
sigginike90Jan 12, 2006
this guy is obviously upset that he doesn't have the MacBook and just a powerbook i mean who cares that it has 3 less pixles or somthinge :S
stuarteaApr 13, 2006
The lack of FW800 does seem like a daft omision, unless you're an Apple apologist. I'm somewhat late at realising it doesn't even have it. FW800 is faster: <a class="user" href="http://www.barefeats.com/5472.html">http://www.barefeats.com/5472.html</a>I suppose the thought is; most high end stuff will take place on desktop models, and perhaps FW800 will turn up in the 17" or future generation, rather than be dropped. Or, maybe something new.Speed, isn't just for high end professionals, or everyone would've been happy with the G4.
stuarteaApr 13, 2006
Other thought, Apple did drop Audio-Line-In on the original TiBooks, only to bring it back in later models.