eff.org— I don't really do anything illegal that I would need to worry about...but on the off chance that I decide to, there's a list of printers I can actually use and not get caught with.
Oct 20, 2005View in Crawl 4
"Do you think you could sue the printer manufacturer for knowingly selling you a printer that affects your image quality albeit slightly, and also wastes your yellow ink without stating it on their packaging?"I doubt it, they would probably say that since it's just a small amount and size that it there's not real evidence it messes up with the picture or text in a meaningful way, and that the amount of ink it actually uses is microscopic at best.
Every decent kidnapper knows you should cut and paste letters out of magazines to make a ransom note. I would be insulted if my kidnapper printed out my ransom note on his lexmark.
HP printers definitely have this technology in it, it just is implemented differently (it doesn't use canon's boards, it makes its own.) How do I know? Try printing an image of a $100 bill on your Deskjet. And then watch it stop halfway through.
to all the functionaly retarted people that keep saying 'tin hat' comments, ever think that journalist etc may NEED to keep their privacy? I know you guys want to get anal probed by the government on a daily basis but what about the people that arent 'terrorist'? Did you know CHINA was one of the countries that wanted this? Im sure they have everyones best interest at heart though right? And I should put on a tin hat to not be so stupid? ROFL
First of all, there's nothing wrong with counterfeiting money, most currencies are fiat currencies so they are owned by the government, they aren't actually property, and using such currencies causes increasing government violence in any case. Better to destroy such currencies by counterfeiting as much as possible than to take any Devil's bargain.Second, privacy is a right, so it doesn't matter whether you're doing anything illegal or not, you still have the right. Tyrants I'm sure find it convenient that so many citizens say, "I'm not doing anything illegal, so I don't need to worry." If you're a tyrant, you just keep expanding the set of what's illegal until it covers all possible actions. Then you lock up everyone you don't like.Third, if these dots are government mandated, then the underlying debate inevitably becomes "which is better, liberty or safety?" Let's get that debate out of the way right now. For some reason people don't seem to realize that having less liberty makes you less safe! Think about the Jews locked away in the Warsaw ghettos. How much liberty and safety did they have? People who have liberty are invested with power, and hence can resist the attempts of other people to oppress them. Observe how the rich have private jets, and they don't go through security checkpoints. Serfs in the Middle Ages must've have had tons of security, because they couldn't travel at all! Security is the opposite of power, it means you're regressing to the state of serf.Please also read some of Schneier's claims about security and privacy: <a class="user" href="http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2008/01/security_vs_pri.html">http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2008/01/secu ...</a>
rouninOct 20, 2005
Good Lord you people are paranoid.
adml_shakeOct 20, 2005
"Do you think you could sue the printer manufacturer for knowingly selling you a printer that affects your image quality albeit slightly, and also wastes your yellow ink without stating it on their packaging?"I doubt it, they would probably say that since it's just a small amount and size that it there's not real evidence it messes up with the picture or text in a meaningful way, and that the amount of ink it actually uses is microscopic at best.
peerkOct 20, 2005
Every decent kidnapper knows you should cut and paste letters out of magazines to make a ransom note. I would be insulted if my kidnapper printed out my ransom note on his lexmark.
thecapitaliztOct 20, 2005
HP printers definitely have this technology in it, it just is implemented differently (it doesn't use canon's boards, it makes its own.) How do I know? Try printing an image of a $100 bill on your Deskjet. And then watch it stop halfway through.
skellOct 20, 2005
Hopefully this list will become much more detailed and extensive, but a great item to be bookmarked and subscribed too... Dizzig!
Closed AccountOct 20, 2005
to all the functionaly retarted people that keep saying 'tin hat' comments, ever think that journalist etc may NEED to keep their privacy? I know you guys want to get anal probed by the government on a daily basis but what about the people that arent 'terrorist'? Did you know CHINA was one of the countries that wanted this? Im sure they have everyones best interest at heart though right? And I should put on a tin hat to not be so stupid? ROFL
blinksOct 21, 2005
thecapitalizt: a lot of printers will stop halfway no matter /what/ you're printing :-P
stingdtDec 4, 2005
For more detailed instructions om viewing the dots, take a look at my page on the subject:Laserjet 2500 Printer Tracking Dots - <a class="user" href="http://www.burnsonline.net/dots/">http://www.burnsonline.net/dots/</a>
connellybarnesSep 25, 2008
First of all, there's nothing wrong with counterfeiting money, most currencies are fiat currencies so they are owned by the government, they aren't actually property, and using such currencies causes increasing government violence in any case. Better to destroy such currencies by counterfeiting as much as possible than to take any Devil's bargain.Second, privacy is a right, so it doesn't matter whether you're doing anything illegal or not, you still have the right. Tyrants I'm sure find it convenient that so many citizens say, "I'm not doing anything illegal, so I don't need to worry." If you're a tyrant, you just keep expanding the set of what's illegal until it covers all possible actions. Then you lock up everyone you don't like.Third, if these dots are government mandated, then the underlying debate inevitably becomes "which is better, liberty or safety?" Let's get that debate out of the way right now. For some reason people don't seem to realize that having less liberty makes you less safe! Think about the Jews locked away in the Warsaw ghettos. How much liberty and safety did they have? People who have liberty are invested with power, and hence can resist the attempts of other people to oppress them. Observe how the rich have private jets, and they don't go through security checkpoints. Serfs in the Middle Ages must've have had tons of security, because they couldn't travel at all! Security is the opposite of power, it means you're regressing to the state of serf.Please also read some of Schneier's claims about security and privacy: <a class="user" href="http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2008/01/security_vs_pri.html">http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2008/01/secu ...</a>