lunduke.com— Presentation from Linux Fest Northwest about how Linux Sucks (and, specifically, how to fix it). With full video and slides.
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That's the most retarded argument against Linux I have ever heard."I can't run my f**king Windows application. Boo Hoo."If you have "real s**t to do" then get the f**k off Digg and go polish your little s**tty media.BTW, I pirate all my media. So don't expect a dime coming from me.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
Great presentation. I love linux, and I think Ubuntu specifically is really impressive, but it's not ready for most people due to persistant, nagging issues like the ones mentioned in this video. I hope linux becomes the dominant OS but until these problems are resolved, people will be put off.
Yeah, I can't count how many times I had to kill that damn wrapper process. I'm running the 64-bit of Flash 10 but even that still has a ways to go. I'm happy a flash based drop down menu doesn't get covered up with the picture underneath it anymore but going to a site, say ikea.com, is still painful to say the least. I'm just glad they're finally making progress. The whole flash menu bug thing has been a pain in my ass since I've been running Linux (6-7 years)!
I have never experienced this from developers, they probably only ignore jerks who can't come up with productive criticism and only scream: "Man, your application suck ass!!1. Why do you even bother, just use *app that idiot prefers* instead! LOL"
nero: imagine webpages without consistency. Actually you don't have to imagine, look at IE6 versus IE7 versus browsers that comply standards. That's 3-4 different ways a webpage can be displayed if written for only IE6 or for only Firefox or Safari.
phreaky &hermmunster: That's the linux-attitude that makes linux not a succes. As an end-user, I don't give a f**k whether it's linux to blame or nVidia. It doesn't work, end of the line. Vista was sunk over the same issue, it was in fact not its fault, but nVidia drivers, or my Logitech BT keyboard that now only works well under a normal radio-connection.Fact is, nVidia can't be bothered to write new drivers for every new kernel that's released, they are a capitalistic corporation, with their only goal to make profit. They've put into the scales the numbers of users (and money) they can lose and weighed that against the possible profits for developing drivers (time that cannot be inverted in let's say Windows or Mac drivers, + the cost).As soon as one single Linux distro (and all kernel-compatibles) occupies 7-10% they WILL care.
I think bryan's wrong on this 'wasted effort' idea.It really is just evolution. Over the years I've switched desktop environments, audio frameworks, shells, package systems, etc - not because I decided I liked one better - but because the others actually BECAME better, often improving upon ideas of the competition. Just because linux has 1 or 2% market share doesn't mean there isn't still a LOT of developers and a planty of users. It may be small compared to windows and apple, but it's still plenty of people that we can work on opposing toolkits and let the victor be decided.It's not as if THIS IS THE YEAR OF THE LINUX DESKTOP and we all need to be on our A-GAME to finally SLAY THE DEMONS. No, it is still a work in progress, as it should continue to be, and it's not worth sacrificing that just so a few more people make a few more dollars.
Some tips:1. Better driver framework2. Stop with needless abstraction frameworks for sound and such, and settle on 1 good one3. X sucks. Scrap it and go with something lighter and more modern4. Come up with a unified 2d/3d graphics lib (ala DirectX) instead of 505. File system permissions should be based on ACL's and not primitive RWX/Owner,Group,World perms6. Rewrite kernel in C++, make OS more OO7. Work in more modern things like Automation (OLE or however you want to do it)
For whatever it's worth, the GIMP *is* a very powerful tool.However, by the number of comments one comes across saying that the GIMP does not suffice as a complete replacement for PhotoShop, it appears that there is quite a bit of work to do on the GIMP.One useful approach would probably be to notify GIMP developers about features/fixes you want. I, for one, have taken that approach on other projects and was actually surprised that the developers responded in a timely fashion. In fact, my jaw almost dropped when my requests and many other changes were implemented in the next software version that came out a couple of weeks later!The point is, if there is a problem with the software or there is something you really need, chances are that you are not alone. Someone else is probably thinking Linux sucks for the same reasons. Just make a request. You might be surprised at the result.
cannonballApr 30, 2009
That's the most retarded argument against Linux I have ever heard."I can't run my f**king Windows application. Boo Hoo."If you have "real s**t to do" then get the f**k off Digg and go polish your little s**tty media.BTW, I pirate all my media. So don't expect a dime coming from me.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
stuntiliatorMay 1, 2009
Great presentation. I love linux, and I think Ubuntu specifically is really impressive, but it's not ready for most people due to persistant, nagging issues like the ones mentioned in this video. I hope linux becomes the dominant OS but until these problems are resolved, people will be put off.
ramseypawlikMay 1, 2009
Yeah, I can't count how many times I had to kill that damn wrapper process. I'm running the 64-bit of Flash 10 but even that still has a ways to go. I'm happy a flash based drop down menu doesn't get covered up with the picture underneath it anymore but going to a site, say ikea.com, is still painful to say the least. I'm just glad they're finally making progress. The whole flash menu bug thing has been a pain in my ass since I've been running Linux (6-7 years)!
hansrodtangMay 6, 2009
I have never experienced this from developers, they probably only ignore jerks who can't come up with productive criticism and only scream: "Man, your application suck ass!!1. Why do you even bother, just use *app that idiot prefers* instead! LOL"
Closed AccountMay 17, 2009
nero: imagine webpages without consistency. Actually you don't have to imagine, look at IE6 versus IE7 versus browsers that comply standards. That's 3-4 different ways a webpage can be displayed if written for only IE6 or for only Firefox or Safari.
Closed AccountMay 17, 2009
phreaky &hermmunster: That's the linux-attitude that makes linux not a succes. As an end-user, I don't give a f**k whether it's linux to blame or nVidia. It doesn't work, end of the line. Vista was sunk over the same issue, it was in fact not its fault, but nVidia drivers, or my Logitech BT keyboard that now only works well under a normal radio-connection.Fact is, nVidia can't be bothered to write new drivers for every new kernel that's released, they are a capitalistic corporation, with their only goal to make profit. They've put into the scales the numbers of users (and money) they can lose and weighed that against the possible profits for developing drivers (time that cannot be inverted in let's say Windows or Mac drivers, + the cost).As soon as one single Linux distro (and all kernel-compatibles) occupies 7-10% they WILL care.
rangahMay 18, 2009
I think bryan's wrong on this 'wasted effort' idea.It really is just evolution. Over the years I've switched desktop environments, audio frameworks, shells, package systems, etc - not because I decided I liked one better - but because the others actually BECAME better, often improving upon ideas of the competition. Just because linux has 1 or 2% market share doesn't mean there isn't still a LOT of developers and a planty of users. It may be small compared to windows and apple, but it's still plenty of people that we can work on opposing toolkits and let the victor be decided.It's not as if THIS IS THE YEAR OF THE LINUX DESKTOP and we all need to be on our A-GAME to finally SLAY THE DEMONS. No, it is still a work in progress, as it should continue to be, and it's not worth sacrificing that just so a few more people make a few more dollars.
crudomaticMay 19, 2009
Some tips:1. Better driver framework2. Stop with needless abstraction frameworks for sound and such, and settle on 1 good one3. X sucks. Scrap it and go with something lighter and more modern4. Come up with a unified 2d/3d graphics lib (ala DirectX) instead of 505. File system permissions should be based on ACL's and not primitive RWX/Owner,Group,World perms6. Rewrite kernel in C++, make OS more OO7. Work in more modern things like Automation (OLE or however you want to do it)
factsahoyMay 19, 2009
"Nubs"? Like "rub a dub dub, three nubs in a tub?"
sqtabAug 9, 2009
For whatever it's worth, the GIMP *is* a very powerful tool.However, by the number of comments one comes across saying that the GIMP does not suffice as a complete replacement for PhotoShop, it appears that there is quite a bit of work to do on the GIMP.One useful approach would probably be to notify GIMP developers about features/fixes you want. I, for one, have taken that approach on other projects and was actually surprised that the developers responded in a timely fashion. In fact, my jaw almost dropped when my requests and many other changes were implemented in the next software version that came out a couple of weeks later!The point is, if there is a problem with the software or there is something you really need, chances are that you are not alone. Someone else is probably thinking Linux sucks for the same reasons. Just make a request. You might be surprised at the result.