desktoplinux.com — In a recent series of postings to the Linux Foundation's Desktop Architects mailing list, Linux founder Linus Torvalds went into more detail as to exactly why he prefers KDE's approach to the desktop, to that of GNOME.
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herbertscrungeFeb 24, 2007
The large number of people asserting their love of GNOME and indifference to/ dislike of KDE suggests to me that there is in fact *every* reason for GNOME to exist.GNOME has outgrown it's original raison d'etre as a Free alternative to Qt - now it has an entirely new set of reasons to exist, and it is still very much needed and wanted.
bkorFeb 24, 2007
"If Linus needs to get off his high horse, so do the the Gnome Devs."That is not a GNOME developer, but just a subscriber to that mailinglist. See also <a class="user" href="http://live.gnome.org/CodeOfConduct">http://live.gnome.org/CodeOfConduct</a> for the guidelines we try to follow.
user98887Feb 24, 2007
Wasn't all this crap argued about the other day in a similar story - I checked this story out thinking it had some more info (an epilogue you might say), but nope.Same KDE vs Gnome.A Window manager/Desktop provides a GUI to browse files and start programs, they both do that.If you spend all day adjusting settings or tweaking it - your playing with it.(For most of the 12 year olds who post on Digg, you will understand that reference in a couple of years)
5plic3rFeb 25, 2007
Both Gnome and KDE suck. I prefer Gnome to KDE, but only by a small margin.
decoherenceFeb 25, 2007
nice remarks by blizzard at the end there.Linus; You've picked on one aspect of GNOME to dislike. I recommend KDE people switch to GNOME when they tell me their linux computer is slow or overwhelming. So you either live without that feature or you move on to a desktop environment that does. You don't use your out-of-proportion influence to try and effect GNOME development, which is exactly what you're doing.Which brings me to my next point: Why the hell does everybody care what Linus Torvalds thinks so much? He's a kernel developer; that doesn't make him an expert on anything but kernel development. The guy gets seriously way too much credit for his tactless spouting off. It's bad for the community.
blackadderiiiFeb 25, 2007
You see, one person's meat is another's poison.I work with a computer all day, day in and day out, and to me, If you don't require a decent print dialog, file manager, common file dialogs, networking support or fast configuration tools in a GUI you're playing with it.
honoredmuleFeb 25, 2007
Ahhh...interesting. What a very unique, informative, and insightful response. You know you have to read the books to be in the book club, right?
sanguinemoonFeb 26, 2007
@bkor I've heard of that before, but I still don't understant itIf I'm looking at the right thing:Menu editingTo implement menu editing, the intent is that a per-user file is created. The per-user file should specify a with the system wide file, so that system changes are inherited. When the user deletes a menu item, you add foo.desktop. If the user adds a menu item, you use foo.desktop. If the user moves a folder you can use elements to represent the move. elements used for menu-editing should always be added to the most top-level menu to ensure that moves are performed in the order in which they are specified; moves specified in child menus are always performed before moves specified in a more top level menu regardless of their location in the menu file. To delete a folder, simply append the element. When adding a new folder or moving an existing folder, menu editing implementations are advised not to re-use the menu path of a previously deleted folder. Menu editors probably need to do some kind of consolidation/compression to avoid an XML tree that grows infinitely over time. .7 - 1.0 of the spec all read about the same. I'm sure how the absolutely required the removal of the menu editor.
poxoeMay 24, 2007
Doubtful info... Rubbish.
g2g591Sep 21, 2007
I'm afraid I have to agree with Linus on this one, I used gnome for the 1st week of using linux (ubuntu) not knowing anything about desktop environments, and I found the configuration downright confusing and hard to follow, KDE does configuration much better, especially the slightly modified version of Kcontrol that ships with Kubuntu (kcontrol itself is still better than gnomes confusing and limiting options)
g2g591Sep 21, 2007
Why are you confusing the kernel with distribution and window manager? they are all very separate terms, sir please learn a bit more about what your are talking about before you speak