commentarymagazine.com — As the Left and Right discover what’s in that legislation, there may in fact be a broad consensus building over the need to just start over. There has got to be something that makes more sense than this
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echelonistDec 30, 2009
@CaptRageWhat choice would they have? They didn't had one with us back when we implemented our single payer system. "Not as much money as before???? We have collectively decided to shut our business to the US. Good bye." .. very unlikely.
spider_manDec 30, 2009
Let's see, if it passes and people love it, Obama gets the credit. If everyone hates it, then don't blame him, it's not his plan.Have I got that right now?
thummpDec 30, 2009
@jeffiakSo your solution is to ensure we keep the threshold sufficiently high so as not to burden the middle class? And you agree that health care costs are rising significantly faster than wages and inflation. Help me out here because I no longer see a good plan to lower costs, and that threshold of yours is gonna have to keep rising....
ultimisDec 31, 2009
You mean those other nations that use our discoveries to their advantage? These same nations that we defend with our military? These same nations that give a small fraction of the charity we do to countries that need food and medicine? These same nations where the ones who can afford it come to the U.S. for their healthcare?Please stop comparing other countries to us, when the circumstances are vastly different. I'm pretty sure many of those countries do not want the U.S. to use their system.
atarioJan 1, 2010
Handing control of it over to Congress early on was a deliberate attempt to avoid what happened the last time this was tried, with Hillary in the early '90s, where it was written first, then handed over to Congress.
atarioJan 1, 2010
Also: "tort reform" is code for "if the system screws you, you can't sue". f**k that.
starryann2000Jan 2, 2010
I think the point here is that this bill is a crap shoot, if you fall into the certain 13 million who will be helped by being dumped into the medicaid welfare program which is part of their plan, then your taxes dollars might be useful. However from what I can tell your taxes will go up, because they also plan on taxing medical devices, doctors, hospitals, tanning, small business and fining you for not having the insurance, which by the way will be enforced by the new IRS rules. You will also be paying for new bureaucracy to be able to handle all the new regulations and Czars they plan to add. Then while they talk about how it will stop certain practices by insurance companies, most of the provisions do not take effect for four or five years but you pay the taxes from day one. They don't want people to focus on this however, so they just mention that part that starts right away. By the way apparently even president obama has not read the bill as posted
blondydogJan 4, 2010
The beginning of the end of Obama, smells wonderful to me.
rkennedJan 5, 2010
I'm not much of an Obama supporter, although I'd still vote for him over any current Republican potential candidate due to their stance on other issues. However, blaming someone who has not authored a single line of a 2000+ page bill is stupid. Furthermore, wondering if its bad news for Obama in the 2010 elections is just as stupid because Obama isn't up for reelection in 2010. If you want to use the "wake up" America cliche that has become popular in the past couple months, you should wake up and realize that the number of people that will remember that health care was a big deal by the time Obama is up for reelection will likely be outnumbered by the number of minorities that will vote for Obama regardless of his policy decisions.