Actually most of our laws are based on the Common Laws established in England. Some go back to the 800's. Some of those may have had a biblical basis but people were tried in government courts not in church tribunals.
Not a quote from George Washington.This comes from the Treaty of Tripoli, which was an agreement between the U.S. and Barbary pirates. Basically the U.S. paid tribute to these pirates until the navy was big enough to beat them. The pirates were Muslim, and the treaty's language points out that the U.S. does not "establish" any religion. The full quote goes on to emphasize that the U.S. has never engaged in a religious war on the side of Christianity against Islam.This quote has also been erroneously attributed to John Adams. The moral of the story is that this quote, and others like it, do not provide a "gotcha" to the right on the left's behalf. They only provide fodder for those who seek to vilify one group of people while making another group look foolish for those who actually bother to check sources.
--A bold assertion. Do you have a source?--The CBO says it will cost $1 trillion. It doesn't say it will cut government on health care.---That just shows how overworked their machines are due to lack of equipment.Who's being careless and fanciful, now? That seems to me like efficient use of their machines.---The fact is they have shortages of machines, as shown by the fact that they have a less responsive health care system and lower survival rates for cancer.---I concede that Ohio has more MRI machines than France. I would also point out that (given the chart I showed you) France has very few MRI machines even in relation to other countries with socialized medicine. You're cherry-picking an extreme example.---Ohio also has more MRI machines than Canada.--It wouldn't solve the problem outright, but it would be a start. If things continue for us as they are, we'll be *even worse off* than we would be if this bill passed. For that reason, passing this bill doesn't strike be as being fiscally irresponsible.---The bill will NOT reduce public spending on health care. It will not reduce Medicare or Medicaid expenses. It seems like you're latching on to a fantasy with no rational basis.> The US leads in cancer survivability overall. When looking at all cancers, the US beats EVERY European nation:And yet the United States still has a lower total life expectancy. Do you have evidence to show that *overall* outcomes are better in the United States (particularly for people without insurance)? Or just cancer?
"Of all the dispositions and habits which lead to political prosperity, religion and morality are indispensable supports. In vain would that man claim the tribute of patriotism who should labor to subvert these great pillars of human happiness, these firmest props of the duties of men and citizens ... Let it simply be asked, where is the security for property, for reputation, for life, if the sense of religious obligation desert the oaths which are the instruments of investigation in courts of justice? And let us with caution indulge the supposition that morality can be maintained without religion. Whatever may be conceded to the influence of refined education ... reason and experience both forbid us to expect that national morality can prevail in exclusion of religious principle." - Geo. Washington's Farewall Address.
mujokanAug 24, 2009
Sorry, what's your point?
reuscelAug 25, 2009
I prefer "Mind your business" as the motto on US Currency:<a class="user" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fugio_Cent" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fugio_Cent</a>So did Ben Franklin.
prolianceAug 26, 2009
Since Washington never said this, I'm calling out HotterDigg as the liar.
ederloreAug 27, 2009
Actually most of our laws are based on the Common Laws established in England. Some go back to the 800's. Some of those may have had a biblical basis but people were tried in government courts not in church tribunals.
secrityAug 28, 2009
"under god" was added to the Pledge of Allegiance for the same reason.
presidentbryceAug 30, 2009
Not a quote from George Washington.This comes from the Treaty of Tripoli, which was an agreement between the U.S. and Barbary pirates. Basically the U.S. paid tribute to these pirates until the navy was big enough to beat them. The pirates were Muslim, and the treaty's language points out that the U.S. does not "establish" any religion. The full quote goes on to emphasize that the U.S. has never engaged in a religious war on the side of Christianity against Islam.This quote has also been erroneously attributed to John Adams. The moral of the story is that this quote, and others like it, do not provide a "gotcha" to the right on the left's behalf. They only provide fodder for those who seek to vilify one group of people while making another group look foolish for those who actually bother to check sources.
velenaAug 31, 2009
...but Washington never told a lie.
thecoolestguySep 3, 2009
--A bold assertion. Do you have a source?--The CBO says it will cost $1 trillion. It doesn't say it will cut government on health care.---That just shows how overworked their machines are due to lack of equipment.Who's being careless and fanciful, now? That seems to me like efficient use of their machines.---The fact is they have shortages of machines, as shown by the fact that they have a less responsive health care system and lower survival rates for cancer.---I concede that Ohio has more MRI machines than France. I would also point out that (given the chart I showed you) France has very few MRI machines even in relation to other countries with socialized medicine. You're cherry-picking an extreme example.---Ohio also has more MRI machines than Canada.--It wouldn't solve the problem outright, but it would be a start. If things continue for us as they are, we'll be *even worse off* than we would be if this bill passed. For that reason, passing this bill doesn't strike be as being fiscally irresponsible.---The bill will NOT reduce public spending on health care. It will not reduce Medicare or Medicaid expenses. It seems like you're latching on to a fantasy with no rational basis.> The US leads in cancer survivability overall. When looking at all cancers, the US beats EVERY European nation:And yet the United States still has a lower total life expectancy. Do you have evidence to show that *overall* outcomes are better in the United States (particularly for people without insurance)? Or just cancer?
avocadoswisherSep 4, 2009
"Of all the dispositions and habits which lead to political prosperity, religion and morality are indispensable supports. In vain would that man claim the tribute of patriotism who should labor to subvert these great pillars of human happiness, these firmest props of the duties of men and citizens ... Let it simply be asked, where is the security for property, for reputation, for life, if the sense of religious obligation desert the oaths which are the instruments of investigation in courts of justice? And let us with caution indulge the supposition that morality can be maintained without religion. Whatever may be conceded to the influence of refined education ... reason and experience both forbid us to expect that national morality can prevail in exclusion of religious principle." - Geo. Washington's Farewall Address.
pantherapardusSep 13, 2009
Why must there be only one truth?
c8r15Jun 2, 2010
I think i'll put my money on the guy that owned slaves.