43folders.com — I feel like Apple was abandoning an opportunity to make this more than a phone, and more that an iPod, and even ? let?s be frank about the elephant in the room ? much more than a Palm or a Pocket PC. There?s the potential here for some serious George Jetson s**t and it would be a pity not to capitalize on that as early as possible
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pevensenJan 24, 2007
We don't just want an open phone, we want an open iPhone. The Apple iPhone is extremely cool. If I just wanted any old open phone, I will stick with my Treo.
avalontorJan 24, 2007
Wow, still more comments about the iPhone.
ogdenJan 24, 2007
I think the main motivation for not allowing 3rd parties is not Skype/VOIP. IMHO Cingulars data service is ALREADY legendary for its sloth. The Cingular network simply cannot handle a million little computers out there sucking up data 24/7. It wasn't designed for that, period. Cell tower bandwidth and capacity is an *EXTREMELY* finite resource.3G is the only thing that has a chance of supporting data traffic of this nature so don't expect any traction on 3rd party apps until there's a 3G iPhone, and even then Cingular will want to stop you from actually using the service you're paying for, so don't expect too much
Closed AccountJan 24, 2007
Dug for superior use of funny metaphors.
anachronoksJan 24, 2007
The worst part is, they know they can get away with it. Just look at the DRM on the iPod... Apple makes the record industry proud.
ethergnatJan 24, 2007
That's a bogus argument. Cingular already offers a dozen PDA/Smartphones based on the Palm, Windows Mobile, and Blackberry platforms. Most of them are not 3G capable, but all allow third party development. This is purely a move by Apple/Cingular to lock out third party developers and protect their revenue streams.
willcode4beerJan 25, 2007
If Apple choses to be hostile to developers, why would you want to help them by creating software for their platform?I say if they wanna be closed and not play, then they can just take their ball home too. There are plenty of other platforms that are open to developers.Just ignore apple
ilgazJan 26, 2007
I'd call it (and did) "Apple's choice'" and it is up to customer of iPhone to demand third party apps or not.What made me mad is credible newspapers quoting Steve Jobs saying horrible, wrong things such as "Nobody wants Java", "Third party apps can bring down network" etc.People, there are 100.000.000 (100m) Symbian devices out there running real C code and billion+ J2ME phones/devices and soon Blu-Ray, HD-DVD 3rd generation stuff.Nothing has brought down any network and my java hating C coder friends all have SSH J2ME apps installed to their phones using them to manage very critical servers in case of emergency.
ilgazJan 26, 2007
You mean like third party "hack" or something? Now, _that_ would be a serious security risk on phone, customer using the phone and the network.That is the real security, usability problem. Not the third party apps. If a $500 "smart phone" needs a hack to enable third party applications, I wouldn't buy it at first place.
Closed AccountJan 30, 2007
You know, gosh, I think I'm on Jobs' side on this one. If Steve says custom applications can gum up the network, he MUST know what he is talking about. You wouldn't want those tubes to get clogged, now, would you??/sarcasm