arstechnica.com— Could the secret feature in Mac OS X 10.5 that bumped iLife '07 and iWork '07 from the Macworld keynote be a new 3D user interface?
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Gawd, what a patheric dweeb. jimv, feel free to not purchase it if you don't want it. No one is being forced, in any sense, to purchase the next version of OS X unless you want the new features. Your current Mac and OS do not stop working because something new is being sold. All you are seeing is Moore's Law and a company actually trying to keep pace with it rather than have delivery deadlines drag out for years. Of course you probably don't even own a Mac and only lurk here to complain about people who mysteriously don't make the same choices you've made.
actually the thing that will make leopard a true 3d desktop environment, is a little secret Apple are slipping into Leopard..Float. Yes that's right, float not Garbage Collection, from now on a true 3d desktop, and there are rumors that OS X may eventually use Char and String as well to represent text on the 3d "iPanels"/sarcasm>I can't believe so many people dugg the article... Come on people, your meant to be tech savvy!
@TyrloneYou could say that OpenGL, which is the balls behind and effects in Tiger, IS representing all the data in 3D before it's rasterized onto the screen, which happens very last in the graphics pipeline.Each vertex will have 3D coordinates that stay with it (including Z, depth) during any transformations and visual effects until the last moment that is has to be flattened onto the screen for drawing. Even then, most implementations utilize the z-buffer to handle layering, which is an entirely different thing but it goes to show that 3D information is at least retained.
The only facts here are no-one knows the answer because it's a secret feature. This speculation is all good idle talk but it doesn't amount to jack on release day unless someone by some extraordinary fluke actually guessed right - hey it happens!
you don't know yet. maybe another secret feature is that you can go forward in time and see your future-bloat-files and retrieve them into the present.
"I'm sure he's not laughing as Beryl has every major window effect in OSX already in it."Way to not get the point, dude.Apple's design cycle for anything is as much about what it *shouldn't* do, as what it should do. There's a reason why Apple avoids bloat.-jcr
thecosasMar 27, 2007
perhaps with resolution independence, that "enhance" button the TV police use all the time will actually work in real life haha.
sdbryanMar 27, 2007
Gawd, what a patheric dweeb. jimv, feel free to not purchase it if you don't want it. No one is being forced, in any sense, to purchase the next version of OS X unless you want the new features. Your current Mac and OS do not stop working because something new is being sold. All you are seeing is Moore's Law and a company actually trying to keep pace with it rather than have delivery deadlines drag out for years. Of course you probably don't even own a Mac and only lurk here to complain about people who mysteriously don't make the same choices you've made.
pixelbenderMar 27, 2007
Wrong? WRONG!?You just ruined the excitement of the thought of getting my cardboard blue and red 3d glasses out just to use OS X! SHAME!
purdoMar 27, 2007
actually the thing that will make leopard a true 3d desktop environment, is a little secret Apple are slipping into Leopard..Float. Yes that's right, float not Garbage Collection, from now on a true 3d desktop, and there are rumors that OS X may eventually use Char and String as well to represent text on the 3d "iPanels"/sarcasm>I can't believe so many people dugg the article... Come on people, your meant to be tech savvy!
iwantawiiMar 27, 2007
@TyrloneYou could say that OpenGL, which is the balls behind and effects in Tiger, IS representing all the data in 3D before it's rasterized onto the screen, which happens very last in the graphics pipeline.Each vertex will have 3D coordinates that stay with it (including Z, depth) during any transformations and visual effects until the last moment that is has to be flattened onto the screen for drawing. Even then, most implementations utilize the z-buffer to handle layering, which is an entirely different thing but it goes to show that 3D information is at least retained.
neoricenMar 27, 2007
This sounds alot like people expecting 'the next big secret' of the Wii before it came out, look how that turned out, nothing.
svpirateMar 27, 2007
The only facts here are no-one knows the answer because it's a secret feature. This speculation is all good idle talk but it doesn't amount to jack on release day unless someone by some extraordinary fluke actually guessed right - hey it happens!
kmartsheriffMar 27, 2007
Shawn the non-belieeeeveerrrr. Shaaaaaawwwwwwwnn(signal15 wins this thread)
mbx1Mar 28, 2007
you don't know yet. maybe another secret feature is that you can go forward in time and see your future-bloat-files and retrieve them into the present.
nsresponderMar 28, 2007
"I'm sure he's not laughing as Beryl has every major window effect in OSX already in it."Way to not get the point, dude.Apple's design cycle for anything is as much about what it *shouldn't* do, as what it should do. There's a reason why Apple avoids bloat.-jcr