defectivebydesign.org— DefectiveByDesign.org has launched an action to tag theproduct pages for the Amazon Kindle and Kindle ebooks with the phrase "kindle swindle" to warn shoppers about the latest DRM infestation.
Dec 12, 2007View in Crawl 4
see, this is actually a good example. Nothing is stopping you from lending the kindle to a friend. it's not assigned to your eyes. You want to buy something digital and then throw it around like a psycho. They'd be crazy to let you do it.
They have experimental conversion via email, and you can also use mobipocket reader to convert to PRC which it can read. The mobipocket one is not perfect (I've tried out several PDF files) sometimes the formatting is weird but it works.
Or just use a more flexible solution a tablet PC or nokia N800 device and PDF that is in color now.Also you can back up you files on a durable SD or MMC card.
Welcome to the real world. Unless you're using Open Source, you don't own your Operating System or the browser you used to write your comment. It'd doubtful that you even own the house you live in -- and if you do, it's nearly a guarantee that you don't own the land it's built on. This is the Capitalist Dream: Where 1% of the population owns everything, while the rest of us work a 70 hour work week just to afford the privilege to borrow the necessities for short period of time.
For people who frequently buy new books - like me, Kindle ebooks are a great deal - my household has 2 Kindles. Kindle ebooks generally sell for 50% to 30% less than new hardcover or paperback (including tax & shipping). I am more than happy to accept this lower price and other advantages in return for my not being able to lend, sell to a used store, and other disadvantages. I save more money and get a better selection of books by getting a sample of a Book from my Kindle (cover through first chapter) and only buy the book if I want to go past the first chapter.. I only buy my books just before I actually want to read them - as I get it in less than a minute.When I buy a Kindle eBook - I pay only once for it to be on both my and my wife's Kindle as up to 6 Kindles get all purchased Kindle ebooks registered to a single account.
Oh for goodness sake. DRM that prevents someone from exercising their legal rights is a problem. Eg, preventing someone from makign a backup copy. This is just not the case here. Everything is backed up at Amazon. Users who buy the system understand the limitations of the medium (book movement, etc) and buy it any way. This isn't a standard that's forced on any one. If I happen to prefer my $9.95 Kindle edition to the $15.95 softcover, that's my choice. Move on to something that's actually a problem.
Whats wrong with e books? Or any book in digital form for that matter?Its the DRM that makes then non-transferable becasue you don't own the file, and therefore you don't buy them, you license them. If I could buy e-books for the kindle (and it was cheaper) I would do it in a heartbeat.ESPECIALLY with technical manuals or school books, the ability to search is awesome.When I was in the Navy, I fixed FA-18's. ALL the manuals were .pdf (with a backup hardcopy stored away). It was hard enough just figuring out WHICH manual had what you needed, let alone finding the info itself. So hard in fact that there was a separate school JUST for learning the manuals. These manuals were all several hundred to thousand pages each, and there are over 100 that pertained to our aircraft.The digital books are so much better in-fact that the super hornet squadrons had toughbook laptops JUST so you did not have to print and bring out 50 pages of paper to the jet itself.
You fail to understand that people bitching about this is EXACTLY what caused Amazon and others to offer DRM free Music.What is it with you people that just don't understand that you can't sit meekly by. If absolutly nobody protested the DRM, nobody would even know that there is an un-tapped market waiting for a non-drm version of the kindle. Funny thing is, once someone manages to make it, all the idiots with the kindle will have to re-buy all their DRM'ed books.
According to the Courts, media shifting is legal. I care far more about what the Courts say than what RIAA says. A lawyer will say what ever you want them to, if you are the one paying their fees.
judgemonkeyDec 13, 2007
see, this is actually a good example. Nothing is stopping you from lending the kindle to a friend. it's not assigned to your eyes. You want to buy something digital and then throw it around like a psycho. They'd be crazy to let you do it.
aerogantDec 13, 2007
They have experimental conversion via email, and you can also use mobipocket reader to convert to PRC which it can read. The mobipocket one is not perfect (I've tried out several PDF files) sometimes the formatting is weird but it works.
zushibaDec 13, 2007
I believe Open Office can save word documents.
Closed AccountDec 13, 2007
Or just use a more flexible solution a tablet PC or nokia N800 device and PDF that is in color now.Also you can back up you files on a durable SD or MMC card.
phlostenDec 13, 2007
Such a con. You can buy a real book for a similar price, and the damn things is yours to do what you will, none of this DRM licensing restriction.
amyrose1024Dec 13, 2007
Well, the fact that Amazon wants you to send it through them to be converted tells me that they could be spying on you.
geddonDec 13, 2007
Welcome to the real world. Unless you're using Open Source, you don't own your Operating System or the browser you used to write your comment. It'd doubtful that you even own the house you live in -- and if you do, it's nearly a guarantee that you don't own the land it's built on. This is the Capitalist Dream: Where 1% of the population owns everything, while the rest of us work a 70 hour work week just to afford the privilege to borrow the necessities for short period of time.
lolo2007Jan 30, 2008
How about this: don't buy ebooks. Paper is more accessible and more future-proof. I always felt the idea of an ebook was just absurd. There's nothing like having your own copy of a real book. No DRM to f**k it up in the near or distant future.<a class="user" href="http://dir.paramegsoft.com/">http://dir.paramegsoft.com/</a><a class="user" href="http://game.paramegsoft.com/">http://game.paramegsoft.com/</a>
nextingFeb 17, 2008
Your ebook library is DRM with a different set of rights.
nextingFeb 18, 2008
For people who frequently buy new books - like me, Kindle ebooks are a great deal - my household has 2 Kindles. Kindle ebooks generally sell for 50% to 30% less than new hardcover or paperback (including tax & shipping). I am more than happy to accept this lower price and other advantages in return for my not being able to lend, sell to a used store, and other disadvantages. I save more money and get a better selection of books by getting a sample of a Book from my Kindle (cover through first chapter) and only buy the book if I want to go past the first chapter.. I only buy my books just before I actually want to read them - as I get it in less than a minute.When I buy a Kindle eBook - I pay only once for it to be on both my and my wife's Kindle as up to 6 Kindles get all purchased Kindle ebooks registered to a single account.
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ldimeglioJun 23, 2008
Oh for goodness sake. DRM that prevents someone from exercising their legal rights is a problem. Eg, preventing someone from makign a backup copy. This is just not the case here. Everything is backed up at Amazon. Users who buy the system understand the limitations of the medium (book movement, etc) and buy it any way. This isn't a standard that's forced on any one. If I happen to prefer my $9.95 Kindle edition to the $15.95 softcover, that's my choice. Move on to something that's actually a problem.
valynFeb 25, 2009
Yea, but can the kindle still use the text-to-speech for those non-amazon files?
valynFeb 25, 2009
Whats wrong with e books? Or any book in digital form for that matter?Its the DRM that makes then non-transferable becasue you don't own the file, and therefore you don't buy them, you license them. If I could buy e-books for the kindle (and it was cheaper) I would do it in a heartbeat.ESPECIALLY with technical manuals or school books, the ability to search is awesome.When I was in the Navy, I fixed FA-18's. ALL the manuals were .pdf (with a backup hardcopy stored away). It was hard enough just figuring out WHICH manual had what you needed, let alone finding the info itself. So hard in fact that there was a separate school JUST for learning the manuals. These manuals were all several hundred to thousand pages each, and there are over 100 that pertained to our aircraft.The digital books are so much better in-fact that the super hornet squadrons had toughbook laptops JUST so you did not have to print and bring out 50 pages of paper to the jet itself.
valynFeb 25, 2009
You fail to understand that people bitching about this is EXACTLY what caused Amazon and others to offer DRM free Music.What is it with you people that just don't understand that you can't sit meekly by. If absolutly nobody protested the DRM, nobody would even know that there is an un-tapped market waiting for a non-drm version of the kindle. Funny thing is, once someone manages to make it, all the idiots with the kindle will have to re-buy all their DRM'ed books.
bohemeMar 6, 2009
According to the Courts, media shifting is legal. I care far more about what the Courts say than what RIAA says. A lawyer will say what ever you want them to, if you are the one paying their fees.