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infestusAug 2, 2010
This is awful. I hope the moose manage to gouge the f**k out of those little bastards. animal cruelty and hunting for sport and not necessity is a terrible thing.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
hetmanAug 3, 2010
Most of the natural predators of the moose have been killed. They will overpopulate and run out of food. In the end they will suffer a slow agonizing death. How exactly would you fix this problem?
overtokeAug 3, 2010
stop killing the natural predators, morons
mandarinAug 3, 2010
moose rides?
mweatherAug 3, 2010
"Most of the natural predators of the moose have been killed. They will overpopulate and run out of food. In the end they will suffer a slow agonizing death. How exactly would you fix this problem? "
You say that like they're not going to die a slow agonising death if they're well fed. Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
hetmanAug 3, 2010
That sounds good unless you live in those areas. They have been displaced and hunted for a reason. People do not like walking into there backyards and seeing predators there. I am all for bringing back natural predators however if you beleive that can happen in a timely fashion with out complaints by the citizens then you are niave.
eddiepotatoAug 3, 2010
"stop killing the natural predators, morons"
We can always re-introduce some timber wolves and grizzlies into your neighborhood. If they approach you while you're waiting for the bus, just raise your arms to make yourself look bigger, and don't turn your back on them.
thegreat0neAug 3, 2010
Grizzly bears can kill moose. We should move some of them over to Vermont.
sanchomandovalAug 3, 2010
"stop killing the natural predators, morons"
Are you the same person who would demand the police do something if a black bear or worse yet a wolf (two of the moose's predators) were in your back yard? I think a lot of people want to have their cake and eat it too on this issue... and don't realize what it would be like with wolves roaming the suburbs, they don't realize what it would be like with an overgrown moose population... they want something that can't exist: a stable population of "good" animals who are never hunted by humans and no problems from scary evil animals. That's really not going to happen.
gneissisniceAug 3, 2010
That's all well and good...if the moose population was too high. According to the article, there are upward of 4000 moose in Vermont's forests. 4000 individuals in the entire state of Vermont? That's hideously low. Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
eddiepotatoAug 3, 2010
"You say that like they're not going to die a slow agonising death if they're well fed."
Important point. Remember, anti-hunters, nobody is "put to sleep" in the wild. Animals are either killed quickly by a predator (incl. human), or they eventually become too old and weak to procure food, leading to the slow agony of starvation.
utkengineerAug 3, 2010
@Eddie - Your point is a good one. However, I would argue that natural predation isn't necessarily quick. I once saw a pack of wolves run down a coyote they didn't want in the area. Basically, a wolf grabbed each leg and pulled. The pain was very evident in the coyotes reaction. Finally, when the coyote was likely succumbing to shock from broken legs or having it's limbs pulled out of the socket, a wolf snuck in close and eviscerated it. Still, blood loss probably took a while to kill the suffering animal.
mweatherAug 3, 2010
If you don't want to live around large apex predators, move out of their habitat.
dycefreakAug 3, 2010
"Most of the natural predators of the moose have been killed. They will overpopulate and run out of food. In the end they will suffer a slow agonizing death. How exactly would you fix this problem?"
replace the word MOOSE with HUMANS and you're spot on!Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
itwasonlyajokeAug 3, 2010
So you want the *humans* to die? The lives of animals are more important than humans?
What twisted world do you live in? And how is it cruelty? I'm sure many will be eaten as well.
thegurustudAug 4, 2010
There's 7 billion oxygen wasters on this planet. I support wholesale culling of people over mooses.
The world won't miss us.
itwasonlyajokeAug 4, 2010
I seriously hope you're joking, because if you're not, you are dangerous to society.
Why exactly are we worth *less* than animals, in your twisted view? Oxygen wasters? We are the only living beings capable of higher thought... animals are primitive biological entities.
If you're not special, then what gives you the right to exist? Do you value your own life?
utkengineerAug 4, 2010
@TheGuruStud
I am in complete agreement with you! Please show your dedication to the the "wholesale culling" movement by starting with yourself. I'm right behind you... promise... really.
vincent21212Aug 3, 2010
go f**k a moose
heaintheavyAug 3, 2010
My guess is you've never seen what a moose does to a car and the occupants inside? Moose overpopulation is a problem for humans AND the moose.
nmanguyAug 3, 2010
So letting terminally ill kids hunt is bad?
Closed AccountAug 3, 2010
We have systematically killed off most large predators in this country, while simultaneously destroying much of the natural habitat of these animals, and limiting their food supply. Without carefully managed hunts, overpopulation, disease, and malnutrition would lead to far more suffering than the quick, clean kill a hunter aims for, and prides himself on.
If you eat meat, you're a gigantic f**king hypocrite, because your hamburger suffered a far more horrible death than the venison on my plate.
dreamacheAug 3, 2010
Infestus, you're a piece of s**t. Hug a tree and stay off the f**king internet.
bikes2workAug 3, 2010
Geez...The "f**king" internet is reserved for inarticulate douchebags like @dreamache, didn't you know that?
testiculeseAug 3, 2010
"carefully managed hunts" are one thing. This is moronic.
sneezyxAug 3, 2010
Watch me pull a rabbit out of this hat.
mandarinAug 3, 2010
Hunting culture? There's a 'Hunting culture' ?
stevec123Aug 3, 2010
Yes.
vincent21212Aug 3, 2010
Hunting sub-culture indeed. Your pompousness has blinded you.
eddiepotatoAug 3, 2010
Sounds like you could use a road trip.
tkeajaxAug 3, 2010
Step away from the Xbox and go find nature.
Closed AccountAug 3, 2010
Why yes, yes there is such a thing as a hunting culture. There's also an idiot culture, but I believe you're intimately familiar with that one.
dasroreAug 3, 2010
Anyone who hates hunting should look at the ecological results of letting animals overpopulate, it destroys their ecosystems as well as many other animals and leads to starvation and disease among the hunted animals as well as many others, I'm not sure about the specifics of this paticular situation, but in Michigan hunting white tail deer is pretty much necessary.
seanpaulsAug 3, 2010
What about the ecological results of letting humans overpopulate?
hetmanAug 3, 2010
It has an even worst affect on the enviroment. However most people do not like the idea of being told when they can mate and when they cannot mate.
heaintheavyAug 3, 2010
So what is it? You don't like people?
seanpaulsAug 3, 2010
For the most part. They take and take as if they are entitled to it. Give a human and inch and they'll destroy the planet.
eddiepotatoAug 3, 2010
Population growth through new births has reached zero (or negative) in several developed nations. It's a nice side effect of mandated education and economic prosperity.
jayjaylolAug 3, 2010
Having children should be a privilege.
aristotle0dudeAug 3, 2010
@EddiePotato: You say that as if that is a good thing. Have you ever watched the movie "Idiocracy"? To have a stable society with enough smart people to not only run society but provide a sufficient tax base to support the elderly, the educated should be having an average of 2 children per couple to maintain equilibrium.
heaintheavyAug 3, 2010
We have a large brain and opposable thumbs @seanpauls. Guess what? We win. I bet you are a lot of fun with which to hang.
Closed AccountAug 3, 2010
Hate to break it to you seanpauls, but we come from nature. Nature created us, we will run our course and in the end we'll all die naturally one way or another. Whether you like it or not, the way we act is entirely natural. The planet created us and, more than likely, will outlast us too.
seanpaulsAug 3, 2010
@heaintheavy and REV0R: We also have a think called choice. Just because we have the ability to do so does not mean we should. Its ignorant and irresponsible to think that the actions of modern civilization are entirely natural.
Closed AccountAug 4, 2010
I really don't think it is ignorant. We should try to live in a sustainable way because it is healthy for us and will provide the most longevity for our species on this planet, not because there is a moral imperative to save a moose.
Say we were to pollute this planet over a long span of time but managed to survive for most of it. Maybe things mutated here even, became some grotesque (in your eyes) version of the Toxic Avenger where the sky was always overcast and natural water sources undrinkable. Eventually, over long enough, say we managed to survive long enough to see our star die and kill us in the process. We never managed to leave the solar system sadly. We all die.
Guess what? The universe doesn't give a s**t. We were just some planet, in some system, with a star that blew up, just like all the other stars we see in the sky. There was no great crime against nature in the long run, no where we got an 'F' for species behavior. We were a species that flourished on this particular rock, changed our environment along the way, then went the way life normally does. That is to say: it ended.
Universe moves on, we do not. Where in there did we act against nature? We have a choice, and we should make choices that help us live in a sustainable way, for our own benefit. To pretend we do it for any other reason is the real ignorance.
Closed AccountAug 3, 2010
These animals would not overpopulate if we didn't kill off all of their natural predators.
hetmanAug 3, 2010
We did that 100 years ago before we realized the affect it had on nature. Still how many people want to live in a neighborhood that has an abudence of deadly predators living there?
sanchomandovalAug 3, 2010
Humans wouldn't be particularly safe living anywhere outside of dense urban cores (we're talking Manhattan, not suburbs) if we didn't kill of one particular predator of theirs, the wolf.
vincent21212Aug 3, 2010
We had to kill their predators because their predators were killing us in the night. What the hell is wrong with logic?
entropyfanAug 3, 2010
Tell that to people here in Vermont who raise livestock for a living.
You can't convince the wild predators to only go after wild prey.
utkengineerAug 3, 2010
And if a frog had wings it wouldn't bump it's ass when it jumped.
Now that we're done with asinine hypothetical situations, can we stay on the reality of the discussion at hand?
haikufuAug 3, 2010
We are their natural predator also.
vincent21212Aug 3, 2010
I fail to see any hypothetical discussions.
fallout22Aug 3, 2010
Except that, it's necessary because we f**ked up those animals' natural predators.
Watch out, once we've killed all the moose, we'll start mowing the lawn in the forest.
bluelight74Aug 3, 2010
what's f**ked up is that humans do do that. We have the tendency to eradicate everything in our path. While your comment here:
"Watch out, once we've killed all the moose, we'll start mowing the lawn in the forest."
is humorous it actually has a significant amount of truth to it. Look how we destroy any plant or animal that we deem "troublesome" Read the book Ishmael by Daniel Quinn, I think you'd like it.
mechabortionAug 4, 2010
f**k ishmael. i dont know anyone who like that piece of s**t. and i read it at art school, where people are supposed to be touchy feely and s**t.
kennykljAug 3, 2010
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stevec123Aug 3, 2010
Maybe in your area. The Fish and Wildlife Departments pay very close attention to animal populations and adjust hunting and fishing regulations very closely so they can keep numbers at a safe level.
Depending on the number of harvests, weather factors, reported number of offspring next Spring, and othe factors, the number of permits they give next year will be adjusted to meet the appropriate need.
arcaneamoebaAug 3, 2010
I'm guessing the ecosystem did just fine on it's own before humans came in with guns and began killing as many moose as they can shoot. Unless the moose are an invasive species, hunting should be illegal.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
mantherAug 3, 2010
Dumbass, check out the rules for hunting these moose with the permit they give you, of which they only give out a limited amount... Hunters don't get to go kill as many moose as they can shoot.
aladinsaneAug 3, 2010
Manther, the point you're missing is that you're a gutless piece of s**t who needs to kill defenseless animals in order to compensate for a tiny penis.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
mantherAug 3, 2010
Well, to start, I should let you know that I haven't been out hunting since I was 12 and would go out with my Dad, and we never even got the chance to shoot at an animal when I was out with him (something about me making too much noise and letting them know I was coming...). But, I understand that I can't expect people to complete their thoughts before they come spewing out of their mouths and onto their keyboards, so I'll simply ignore that part of your post.... Oh, that was all you had?? Damn.
Alright, well, I still have to say a couple of things about your naive, if not ignorant, view of the world.
1. It's very disingenuous to lump ALL hunters into the same category as the most vile of them. The vast majority are in it as much for the food as they are for the sport. Also, please remember that there was a time in our history where if we didn't hunt for food, we'd have died. Are you trying to claim that there are some parts of a person's heritage that they should forget, and that you have the moral authority to dictate which parts they are?
2. Hunting isn't always about 'killing me some animals'. As is the case in many places with Deer, if they weren't hunted then their own overpopulation would kill them. I ask you this then: is it better to let hundreds upon hundreds of dead animals rot in the woods after having starved to death, or might it be better to let a few people kill a few of them each year, and take the food out of the woods with them??
and 3. AladinSane, basically you are missing the point where I don't give a s**t about hunting specifically, and simply can't stand to see ignorant assh**es spew such blind hate about something that they obviously know little or nothing about.
arcaneamoebaAug 3, 2010
I am not against hunting if it genuinely helps the ecosystem. However, I think in this case, people are doing it purely for sport. Even if the moose are overpopulated and I'm wrong, the cause of the population growth was most likely hunting of their natural predators.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
mantherAug 4, 2010
In this case, it is definitely not purely for sport. You are correct that you are wrong here, and you're correct that the cause of their crowding is the decline in population of their natural predators. Let me ask you this though:
Would you just sit back and watch wolves feast on your livestock, simply to keep enough of them around so that there isn't Moose overpopulation?? Or would you rather defend your investment/livelihood, kill a viscous wolf that was trying to eat your animals, and then later worry about the animals that aren't eating your livelihood, who also won't be killed by the wolf you just took care of??
Also, please try to remember there was a time in our history, not really that long ago in the grand scheme of things, where we NEEDED to hunt to survive. Some of the predators could have been killed before we even realized the impact it would have on ecosystems. Should we not bother trying to minimize the negative impact our previous actions may have had???
brewbeauAug 3, 2010
How come so few moose hunting licenses are given out if they're overpopulated?
utkengineerAug 3, 2010
Overpopulation is relative. A half ton moose requires a lot more habitat than an 80 lb whitetail deer. The number of hunting permits is related to how many animals must be culled to keep the population stable.
stevec123Aug 3, 2010
The key word is "Management." Hunters follow Wildlife "Management," not Wildlife "Eradication"
vincent21212Aug 3, 2010
We have to kill them or they'll starve!
bracomadarAug 3, 2010
Hitler would love these comments.
hetmanAug 3, 2010
Hitler was a vegeterian. Just saying.
bracomadarAug 3, 2010
Just to be clear, I'm saying he'd love the ones about human overpopulation and how we should control that.
McScoliosisAug 3, 2010
Thanks Godwin
wyefyeAug 3, 2010
wonder what happens when we over populate. hah, China, India, Japan?
Maybe we should have natural predators again. We have a bunch of people who are deserving Darwin award winners, but don't seem to be recognized for their contributions to society.
Ill admit, most of you will probably think i'm just another ass-hat darwin award deserving troller, but think about yourself and all the dumb f**ked up s**t you do.
goweigusAug 3, 2010
club a seal
save a penguin (and a s**t load of fish)
samoan27Aug 3, 2010
To all those who blame humans (not yourself of course) for all the worlds problems:
1: Don't reproduce, this would both prevent hypocricy on your part as well as prevent the passing of stupid from this generation to the next
2: Extinctions occured long before humans came along, and we've only caused a small fraction of the one's that have occured since
3: If you eliminate the top of the food chain from a certain eco-system, as long as you replace it there's very little overall impact overall (if our forefathers chased away all the bears, then hunting is a good thing).
snoogsAug 3, 2010
1. Ad Hominem attacks get you far on the playground, but not here.
2. Humans ARE by far the biggest contributor to extinction since humans came to rise. Of course we needed to protect ourselves at first, but a lot of it is from arbitrarily over-developing. Humans are the first animal to take/produce more than they need to stay balanced within their habitat- hence expansion, starvation, etc. No one is to blame, but you at least need to recognize the fact that we've changed the rules significantly.
3. Bears don't eat moose. There was never a big predator that hunted big game in North America... Wolf packs supported themselves, but that didn't stop millions of buffalo/deer/elk/moose from owning the continent. The right 'number' of these is based on limiting the number of them to get drilled on the highways.
shigAug 3, 2010
The human population, unlike that of lower animals, isn't limited to only the natural resources we have been biologically developed to utilize, but to the natural resources we have developed technologically to utilize. Therefore, the human population's "soft" limit is unlike the white-tail deer population's "hard" limits, and is far from an apples-to-apples comparison.
ruarctbAug 3, 2010
I look at it this way, as long as the animal is ate and the parts are used, how is it different than any other animal used for food? A good hunter will be able to kill an animal in a humane way.
islandlifeAug 4, 2010
moron, what about the effects of humans destroying predators that keep nature in balance. Using the excuse of over population to make it OK to satisfy a redneck hunters need to KILL something, anything is sick and archaic kinda like yourself.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
overtokeAug 3, 2010
they should put the kids out there and let them kill each other instead.
fallout22Aug 3, 2010
Damn, that's an awesome idea for a reality show.
"10 Kids with terminal diseases, 10 guns, 10 miles of wild land; only 1 (temporary) survivor"
samoan27Aug 3, 2010
"10 Kids with terminal diseases, 10 guns, 10 miles of wild land; only 1 will get the treatment that already exists but they can't afford"
fallout22Aug 3, 2010
Hahaha! even better (and probably would fly, to be honest)
uberdugerAug 3, 2010
I was grabbing a sandwich at the Happy Blimp, when all of a sudden, these 2 guys crashed through the window and started shooting at each other.
I was so excited, I didn't even notice I'd been hit! After that I was hooked on Liberty City Survivor. I watch it every day in the hospital!
lagmarAug 3, 2010
Clever title..
0taconAug 3, 2010
Dugg for "... which means it’s likely that both the hunted & hunter won’t see next year’s moose season"
kwcarpenterAug 3, 2010
So is this like when your son tries to go after a bear, and you have to go up to the north part of the state to find him bruised and bloody, and then kill the bear before it gets to you?
fredfredricksonAug 3, 2010
It's a lot like that, yeah. Then the army ambushes you at your ranch.
kwcarpenterAug 3, 2010
Yeah, and then I get really pissed off at life when I become my son instead.
bandomacAug 3, 2010
Usually we become our fathers. In Red Dead, it is the opposite. Then it isn't.
terpintimeAug 3, 2010
clever girl....
kennykljAug 3, 2010
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fredfredricksonAug 3, 2010
I"m pretty sure that they're really massive no matter how close or far you are.
Closed AccountAug 3, 2010
I'm fairly certain their mass does not change with proximity to humans.
kennykljAug 3, 2010
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cedexAug 3, 2010
Good show! Sir!
whoreableAug 3, 2010
If a moose is massive in the forest and nobody is around to see it, is it still massive?
lioozherAug 4, 2010
I believe the author of this statement was just offering proof of the Heisenberg uncertainty principle combined with the observer effect.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uncertainty_principle#Uncertainty_principle_and_observer_effect
suckmykiss4819Aug 3, 2010
Sickly kids dying to kill moose....... f**kin witty digg
spinningheadAug 3, 2010
If you eat meat, you should hunt at least once to understand the true cost of your meal. That said, its kinda weird that the last request of dying kids would be to kill something.
brewbeauAug 3, 2010
I don't know. When I was a kid, if I was dying I would have put hunting on a short list of things I'd want to do. Kids think that is cool. Now, being a grownup, I would rather shoot a moose with a camera.
McScoliosisAug 3, 2010
camera gun?
thanatosstAug 3, 2010
While I haven't gone hunting before, I really want to. I'd love to be able to kill, gut, clean, and then take home my own meat. It's cheap as hell, you get a large amount of food, and the food tastes better and is better for you. Plus, if you can skin the animal and you know how to cure leather or can take it to somewhere that does, you can get yourself a nice rug/wall hanging/blanket/etc for fairly cheap as well.
xkorbinAug 3, 2010
Come out to SD and I will take you pheasant hunting. Not a joke. Tags are $140 I think for out-of-state residents - 3 birds a day take-home limit (more frozen). Possibly increasing to 5.
spinningheadAug 3, 2010
Yeah, there's all kinds of stuff you can do with all parts of the animal. It also gives you a certain respect for the animal that died to provide all that.
Closed AccountAug 3, 2010
I gave it up, myself. I didn't like getting up before dawn, heading out into the cold...all of that. Also, the food/hydes you get can be offset by the time and expense required to actually procure the animal, harvest the meat, and taxidermy isn't always cheap either.
Some folks would argue that wild game meat is actually of less quality than what you might otherwise get, but I think that's largely personal preference. If you live in an area where hunting is big, your friends and family who do hunt will likely be more than willing to share with you. Whenever I visit the family for Christmas, I get a ton of food to take home.
babywookieAug 4, 2010
It's not that cheap, if you account for all the time and effort you put into it. It is quite a hassle, but I still enjoy it.
cedexAug 3, 2010
How do you hunt cows? Particularly the Wagyu variety of cows.
spinningheadAug 3, 2010
With a sharp stick and a bowling pin.
antoniukAug 3, 2010
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pinchduckAug 3, 2010
Bring out the anti-hunting whiners again. I'm fine with the vegetarians/vegans who are at least consistent in their lifestyle and opinions, but everyone who wears leather, eats meat, and decries hunting can just stuff it.
quicksilver4648Aug 3, 2010
You can eat meat without hunting. Its called farming.
Closed AccountAug 3, 2010
...Which is, like, totally more humane, right?
/s (you know - just in case)
davidg11Aug 3, 2010
Why is slaughtering a cow or pig, better than shooting a deer or moose?
Having a red barn around when it's done makes it acceptable to you?
hetmanAug 3, 2010
As I mentioned. Watch any documentary about mega farms. If after watching it you still consider that compassion then you are being intellectually dishonest with yourself.
mechabortionAug 4, 2010
lol yeah, not only are you still killing them, but you are imprisoning them for their whole life as well. good show sir.
heynow21Aug 3, 2010
Yeah and I'm fine with hunters so long as they eat their kill. These dying kids apparently simply want to kill something before they die, and I'd bet before they go some of them will end up regretting it deeply.
brewbeauAug 3, 2010
That should include the lady who started huntofalifetime.org, too. She raises money for terminal kids to hunt but, for some reason, walks out of restaurants when people order veal.
pinchduckAug 3, 2010
LOL. Now that is funny. Maybe she only hunts adult animals and will spare the cute little ones? That's about the only thing that makes even a bit of sense.
rain12913Aug 3, 2010
Hmm I do think that's sort of strange but let me play devil's advocate on her behalf. Veal is quite different than hunting, because the animals are born into a situation where they have no chance of survival whatsoever and where they'll be killed as near-infants. Hunting, on the other hand, often requires that the prey be of a certain age. And it entails that the animals are living their lives in their natural habitats, not in some small cage where they'll spend the entire 2 weeks of their lives.
brewbeauAug 3, 2010
@Rain
No, I get it. An animal that has lived free is better off than one in such a strained captivity. And I can see the benefit to the animals when populations are controlled so that large numbers of animals don't starve. However, killing animals to control populations is still not natural and if it were dealing with the human population, it would obviously be a big ethical problem, to say the least. But, even with animals, it's an ethical question, especially when naturalists don't condone it and when nature films are filmed, they aren't supposed to step in and "help" nature out when an endangered animal is in peril.
mechabortionAug 4, 2010
oh well i guess we should just go out and tell all the animals they can only have one baby, and then fine them if they dont comply with our rules... that idea seems less natural than predators(us) killing animals for food...and to control population, obviously, but they do get eaton.
no matter what people think humans are still animals, just selfaware ones. most animals dont generally kill their own species, so i dont know why it would make sense to compare this to hunting humans. thats like a wolf going holy s**t guys i know these little animals are delicious, but this is f**ked up,what if we were eating other wolfs man. we would never do that! what are we doing!?
pinchduckAug 3, 2010
You can make a solid argument that any hunted animal has a better quality of life than any farm raised animal (or at least the vast majority of them). And while I don't understand hunting for sport, the animal still isn't being wasted. It's not like industrial farm sludge that will pollute rivers or end up in a cesspool, something will come along and eat what remains.
iph0neAug 3, 2010
I'm against it in instances where the person killing the animal gets a kick out of it. I just think it's unhealthy for someone to enjoy killing something. Id be equally against an abortoir worker who laughs hysterically every time he fires a bolt in to a pigs brain.
twwixAug 3, 2010
There's nothing wrong with hunting if you plan on consuming the meat. However, hunting just so that you can show off your trophies in your lob cabin and proof your manhood is a clear sign that you suffer from a small penis complex as well other insecurities.
pinchduckAug 3, 2010
Ah, the old tired formula.
If you show off your proficiency at X by displaying Y you must have insecurity issues.
Tell me, did you ever get a job? Did you use a resume to show your proficiency? You must have insecurity issues.
Do you wear clothes? Do you choose to wear one garment instead of another because you thought it would make you look better? You must have insecurity issues.
Do you drive a car? Have you ever driven it fast? You must have insecurity issues.
I have an opinion. I posted it to the world via Digg. I must have insecurity issues.
You can go on forever like that. Because the tired old formula is applicable to every and any situation, it serves no useful purpose in validating your point. You don't like hunting for sport, and you don't like rustic decorations. Got it.
rain12913Aug 3, 2010
That's very poor logic. I choose to reduce the number of animals that are killed on my behalf by not eating meat. Why does this mean that I must reduce that number to absolute 0 in order to not be a hypocrite? That's like saying somebody who tries to use less gas by driving less is a hypocrite for owning a car at all. I don't go out and buy leather purposefully, but if a product I buy has some leather on it I don't fret it too much. Hell, I'll even cook up some meat for friends and family if I have guests.
I don't think any of this makes me a hypocrite, it just makes me not a preachy assh**e. It seems like you get flamed for being a vegetarian regardless of how you act around here sometimes.
pinchduckAug 3, 2010
An excellent point, and you sound like a very gracious host.
brewbeauAug 3, 2010
Good post. You're right on. I still eat meat because I enjoy it and my hedonism prevails in most cases. However, I limit the meat intake to sensible portions and only 0-1 times a day. That shouldn't disqualify me from thinking high density slaughter houses are bad.
twwixAug 3, 2010
Struck a nerve, did i?
Delude yourself all you want but making poor analogies isn't going to make that penis any bigger.
pinchduckAug 4, 2010
Maybe if I put a few animal heads on my wall...
arcaneamoebaAug 3, 2010
I'm guessing the ecosystem did just fine on it's own before humans came in with guns and began killing as many moose as they can shoot. Unless the moose are an invasive species, hunting should be illegal.
thenazzAug 3, 2010
Sorry you can't stay kids... be sure to go out and kill some animals before your time is up.
There is a fine life lesson there somewhere, I just can't seem to find it. I'd rather get hit up by Make A Wish with some booze and an experienced woman.
Kids, you're doing it WRONG.
oltpAug 3, 2010
Including the majestic møøse
A Møøse once bit my sister ...
No realli! She was Karving her initials on the møøse
with the sharpened end of an interspace tøøthbrush given
her by Svenge - her brother-in-law - an Oslo dentist and
star of many Norwegian møvies: "The Høt Hands of an Oslo
Dentist", "Fillings of Passion", "The Huge Mølars of Horst
Nordfink".
Mynd you, møøse bites Kan be pretty nasti...
chops76Aug 3, 2010
We apologise again for the fault in the subtitles. Those responsible for sacking the people who have just been sacked have been sacked.
werfwerAug 4, 2010
how did you get that cool O ?
I think i could get alot of use out of it here on Digg. . . .
lordbalderdashAug 3, 2010
if one of your dying wishes is to kill something then i'd say your priorities are way out of wack.
iph0neAug 3, 2010
Id definitely have "go to the doctors" before "kill a sentient being" on that list.
babywookieAug 4, 2010
If I was a dying 13 year old kid, I would ask the Make a Wish Foundation to get me a nice whore.
serbstreamAug 3, 2010
I think if you are willing to hunt you should have to do it with a rambo knife and your bare hands.
stevec123Aug 3, 2010
This is an opportunity of a lifetime. Hunters wait for years for their lottery drawing to come up so they get a chance to hunt such a magnificent creature. And I bet you a good number of them would donate their winning ticket to these kids so they can live this experience while they still have a chance.
I don’t mind getting dug down by the ignorant people who see hunting as animal cruelty or “senseless.” Unlike them, I have total respect for every animal I eat because I tracked it, I killed it, I cleaned it, and I processed it. I built a bond with that animal from the first day I started following its tracks to the day I share it with my family and friends on the back patio. Tell me where your half-eaten Big Mac came from, then come back and call me the senseless one.
overtokeAug 3, 2010
these kids aren't doing that. they've been brainwashed by their ignorant parents into thinking they need to kill something.
these kids don't respect these kills.
farm animals purpose = to be eaten. the way they are treated is irrelevant, and is no excuse to kill an animal in the wild instead. fix the problem in the farms. Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
stevec123Aug 3, 2010
The kids don't respect their kills? This is coming from the guy who says, "farm animals purpose = to be eaten?" Clearly you don't respect your food. Why is the treatment of farm animals irrelevant, but ethically harvesting a wild animal is such a problem?
The Earth and all of its creatures have been doing just fine before grocery stores came along so fat lazy f**ks like you could stun evolution. Go kill a bag of Cheetos you lazy douche bag.
bryceman111Aug 3, 2010
Hmm, I agree with your comment for the most part. But I've always thought it was odd to say you formed a bond with an animal you killed. Just a personal preference thing. Hunt on...
stevec123Aug 3, 2010
I agree it seems like an odd concept. But as you're eating that animal, you think about all of the hard work you went through and vividly remember standing over the creature you just killed. It makes you really thankful for what you have.
davidg11Aug 3, 2010
A bond my ass. I'm all for hunting...but let's not pretend you're doing it because you are an ancient, long ago, nomadic, native american who is one with the animal...STEVE.
You want the meat and the head on the wall.
There's no shame in saying that. Don't make it more poetic than it actually is. A moose is basically a swamp cow. Any time I've ever seen one, it does nothing but sit there and eat, and eat, and eat some more. Like a cow on an open field. It basically stands there for you for an hour to let you take your shot. And there's almost no sport (as in there is no chase since they rarely run from anything).
That said, I've ate and enjoyed moose, and I don't put the heads of steers on my wall...but a moose head sure would look nice in a cabin.
matzahmanAug 3, 2010
Moose are f**kin awesome, how dare they.
insanebrainAug 3, 2010
They want moose mousse.
gsydiggerAug 3, 2010
I'd ask for a license to kill, a Gold plated Desert Eagle (you can't say you don't want one) and $1bn to donate to healing other kids who have whatever life threatening condition I had
tkeajaxAug 3, 2010
I'm just going to copy and paste what I posted yesterday. Everyone who is not a vegetarian should have to kill their dinner at least once to understand where their meal comes from. People opposed to hunting are just shielding their conscience from reality. I grew up hunting. I had my first gun since I was 7 years old. My freezer is packed full of venison and fish of which I have harvested personally. Being raised in this fashion hasn't made me a Republican bigot not a blood thirsty murderer.
iph0neAug 3, 2010
Some of us live in houses made of bricks in the big city though. What am i supposed to kill and eat? City pigeons and the homeless?
Before you get hysterical, i have killed what i have eaten before and to a degree agree with you. But it's just not possible for most people to fill their freezer with venison and fish they have caught themselves like some kind of mountain man living in a shack.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
mexdudeAug 3, 2010
Wow way to be a stickler, all this guy is saying is that next time you go out camping and really you should be leaving the city every once in a while to get out to nature, look into hunting and how you can work it into your next vacation. We only live life once and hunting if nothing else must be an experience.
iph0neAug 3, 2010
When i go on holiday i like to tell a man what i want and then have him prepare it and bring it to me. Funny, i think that is better than spending a day up to my neck in mud and intestines just so i can eat dinner.
Saying that people who eat meat should kill animals is as backwards as saying people who take flights should build a plane. It's 2010, get someone else to do.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
werfwerAug 4, 2010
I LOL'd
bryceman111Aug 3, 2010
I understand where my meal comes from. First the freezer and then the grill and fryers behind the counter... duh.
/s
frakkinbastardAug 3, 2010
I agree. Hunting is good. Most hunters respect their game. Do city dwellers respect their steak?
Besides, going out into the wild is good for many youngsters who spend too much time hooked to their game consoles like they were their life support. The generation of weaklings that's growing up will ultimately be a heavy stress for healthcare.
By the way, I'm a computer user and not a computer worshipper. I have done military service and I have been hunting. Since I'm European (and therefore immensely more advanced than you usians) I'm not and never will be "republican bigot" or any other strange beast that populates redneckland.
jayjaylolAug 3, 2010
This is similar to the deer overpopulation where I lived. Deer ended up running around on highways causing car accidents. So the local government hired a few hunters to shoot them or move them to a wildlife reserve.
creeboAug 3, 2010
That's what happened up here in Wisconsin. Only problem now is woods are now became fields and they tried fixing the "overpopulation."
amoludareAug 3, 2010
When I die... *cough* I want to take as many living things with me as I can. *hack* Digg... my cancer hurts.
snoogsAug 3, 2010
No better way to shake the blues than to put a gun to an animal's head.
hetmanAug 3, 2010
Everyone who is complaining of this should research mega farms. They are disgusting and they do not treat there animals compassionately. They live in filthy conditions, they are usually locked up and are not able to move far. They are feed/injected a mixture of hormones, antibiotics, and steroids. If they do happen to get sick they are destroyed immediately. I do not see that being more compassionate than hunting. If anything I would prefer to live in the wild for awhile than being farmed just for meat.
lolcoelacanthAug 3, 2010
because all of us complaining are totally unaware of these farms or are for them. /s
hetmanAug 4, 2010
Thats fine if you do not eat meat. However if you are still eating meat and complaining about hunting then you are a hypocrite.
vilestruAug 3, 2010
Sick kids or not, i'm still pulling for the moose.
heaintheavyAug 3, 2010
I didn't know we had so many Diggers who majored in wildlife management. Wow, impressive!
wafflemonkeyAug 3, 2010
I say, set those kids loose in a jungle with tigers and let them get hunted instead.
sndreamAug 3, 2010
The most dangerous game is to hunt other human, lol.
Should just enroll them in a death match.
djm19Aug 3, 2010
The answer to all of this was not to move most of our human habitat into the wilderness and build suburbs which have mutilated much of our lands and natural habitats and distorted what is urban and what is rural. There would be less concern of predator and human coexistanc.
aladinsaneAug 3, 2010
The bottom line is that if the only way you can feel like a "man" is to go kill a defenseless animal with a high-powered firearm, you're a gutless, brainless idiot. Heaven forbid you should do something CONSTRUCTIVE with your life. Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
nspriggsAug 4, 2010
i'm pretty sure moose aren't defenseless.
Closed AccountAug 3, 2010
KILL'EM ALL! HAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAA!
Ha...
princetrunksAug 3, 2010
Somewhere in an overpriced Alaskan house, staring through her binoculars trying to see Russia and thinking Vermont is just south of her, Sarah Palin is smiling.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
vanillatAug 3, 2010
This sounds like it comes from a comedy sketch.
Arguments:
1. We have to thin the herd.
- You gun toting idiots didn't study evolution so you don't realize that you are killing the strongest member of the herd which will actually weaken the species. If you hunted the sick like wolves do then you'd be doing them a favor.
2. I'm ok killing animals because I have a bond with them because I hunt them.
- That's called circular logic and you are an idiot. I have a bond with my pets and I would do anything for them so spouting your bonding/respect for nature bulls**t doesn't fly.
3. Make a wish for idiots
- I am for letting the hunters hunt each other. Let the sick kids use automatic rifles and let the regular hunters use knives. That way you can both kill something that the planet won't miss.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
Closed AccountAug 3, 2010
There are moose in Vermont??
stacighAug 3, 2010
Are there moose in Canada? Well guess where Vermont is... Right on the Canadian border. =P
joejitsuAug 3, 2010
If I was going to die I would take a moose down with me.
telionisAug 3, 2010
That just seems weird. You would think that being in that position would, they better than anyone else, would realize how precious life is. Instead, they want to take it away from something else before the go themselves? Strange and kind of disturbing.
Closed AccountAug 3, 2010
My dying wish is to hunt Peta members, with a specially trained attack panda.
thesonofdarwinAug 3, 2010
You'd have better luck with your mission if humans would stop destroying their habitat and reducing their almost non-existent population. Better load up that rifle and shoot your way to a better future!
lolcoelacanthAug 3, 2010
Sure hunting may sometimes be necessary to keep an ecological balance, but I still see hunters as barbaric hicks from the South.
andreoAug 4, 2010
That takes care of moose. Now to deal with squirrel!
lioozherAug 4, 2010
In Soviet Pottsylvania, squirrel deal with you!
babywookieAug 4, 2010
I like hunting and all, but if I was a dying 13 year old kid, I would ask the Make a Wish Foundation to get me a nice, big tittied whore to play with for at least one night, instead.
Like in that Kids in the Hall sketch:
-"Anything you want Cancer Boy! Just name it!"
-"I... want... a... twenty... dollar... whore, please."
lioozherAug 4, 2010
The only problem with that scenario is that it would involve sex and this is happening in the US. The authorities would prefer you re-create Columbine in your own high school before allowing you to have sex. You can see PTSD-inducing levels of horrific violence on Saturday mornings but you'd better never let a nipple slip out on prime time.
uncoverorAug 4, 2010
First ve keel moose, then squirrel, darlink! Fearless Leader will be so proud of us.
werfwerAug 4, 2010
i totally missed the first squirrel comment. he didn't have the accent. funny.
youknowmeAug 4, 2010
What a horrible pun