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Jan 31, 2008View in Crawl 4
Actually Kde4 uses cmake and compiling it is much faster than previous releases.. I use a little app called kdesvn-build, that downloads and compiles everything for me and for my surprise it took just two hours for downloading and compiling entire kde4!
KDE is a desktop environment (basically an explorer.exe, plus apps and widgets and other things) for Linux (okay, and BSD and soon coming to Mac OS X and Windows), arguably the best and most full-featured of all the desktop environments for Linux.KDE4 is such a huge release because now it actually looks good by default (and it looks better overall); every time I would format, I made sure to change my desktop as soon as possible because the default in KDE3 was so ugly.
Thanks alot. Big Brother can be a pain in the ass... I have yet to figure out a consistent way to do get around the great firewall; the quality of fresh proxy sites is a bit touch and go.I'm very excited about the progress KDE is making, I think I'll want to try it out once 4.1 comes out. I'm pretty new to Linux though, and I love my GNOME Ubuntu desktop, so I've been a bit hesitant to try out a different flavor of desktop environment (especially since configuring things just the way you like it can be a huge pain in the ass for someone like me that doesn't know what they're doing).
I'm not happy with the look of KDE at all. I left Windows to get away from that look and now KDE seems to be going the wrong way with it's oversize buttons and "must click to expand" main menu (thankfully that can be switched). This is why I prefer Gnome: It is sleek and lean looking. The default KDE desktop looks like I'm on a kids computer with the huge font size for my clock and the overbearingly giant black void of a taskbar which can only be removed by editing a config file unlike the rest of the desktop. Design flaw #4432. Ultimately, after playing around with Plasma widgets and desktop customization, KDE started having a brain fart. The desktop became a graphical mess as windows and widgets started disappearing. Sometimes the screen would turn completely black and I'd have to alt-tab or ctrl-alt-del to get it to come back up again. I understand that bugs will be an issue. But, I'm sorry, the overall design philosophy is flawed and looks too much like Windows, or, more to the point, a bad crossing of Windows 3.1 and Vista. It simply looks cheap. Ah well, back to Gnome for me!
I've been using KDE4 for just under a month now, and I would have to agree with Sklasko. The minimum scale factor for most of the plasmoids is still too big for my taste. And the kicker bar is far too large for not being manipulatable; I ended up simply getting rid of it. I've also hidden the desktop icons (something I was experimenting with even before KDE4).Sklasko may be a little harsh in his criticism (It's a joke? No, It's .0.1 software.), his points are not totally invalid.Don't start down the fanboy path.
kingofpenguinsJan 31, 2008
Or you could just build whatever version you want at any time by just compiling from svn.
puelocesarFeb 1, 2008
Actually Kde4 uses cmake and compiling it is much faster than previous releases.. I use a little app called kdesvn-build, that downloads and compiles everything for me and for my surprise it took just two hours for downloading and compiling entire kde4!
puelocesarFeb 1, 2008
I hope not! Kubuntu packages for kde4.0 doesn't have many 'last-hour' fixes, and is very different from 4.0.0 compiled from sources
purinFeb 2, 2008
KDE is a desktop environment (basically an explorer.exe, plus apps and widgets and other things) for Linux (okay, and BSD and soon coming to Mac OS X and Windows), arguably the best and most full-featured of all the desktop environments for Linux.KDE4 is such a huge release because now it actually looks good by default (and it looks better overall); every time I would format, I made sure to change my desktop as soon as possible because the default in KDE3 was so ugly.
mthmchrisFeb 2, 2008
Thanks alot. Big Brother can be a pain in the ass... I have yet to figure out a consistent way to do get around the great firewall; the quality of fresh proxy sites is a bit touch and go.I'm very excited about the progress KDE is making, I think I'll want to try it out once 4.1 comes out. I'm pretty new to Linux though, and I love my GNOME Ubuntu desktop, so I've been a bit hesitant to try out a different flavor of desktop environment (especially since configuring things just the way you like it can be a huge pain in the ass for someone like me that doesn't know what they're doing).
sklaskoFeb 2, 2008
Agreed with djGentoo, you can run KDE apps within GNOME. Granted you have to bloat your system with KDE libs.. but if you've got the space, go for it.
Closed AccountFeb 2, 2008
I'm not happy with the look of KDE at all. I left Windows to get away from that look and now KDE seems to be going the wrong way with it's oversize buttons and "must click to expand" main menu (thankfully that can be switched). This is why I prefer Gnome: It is sleek and lean looking. The default KDE desktop looks like I'm on a kids computer with the huge font size for my clock and the overbearingly giant black void of a taskbar which can only be removed by editing a config file unlike the rest of the desktop. Design flaw #4432. Ultimately, after playing around with Plasma widgets and desktop customization, KDE started having a brain fart. The desktop became a graphical mess as windows and widgets started disappearing. Sometimes the screen would turn completely black and I'd have to alt-tab or ctrl-alt-del to get it to come back up again. I understand that bugs will be an issue. But, I'm sorry, the overall design philosophy is flawed and looks too much like Windows, or, more to the point, a bad crossing of Windows 3.1 and Vista. It simply looks cheap. Ah well, back to Gnome for me!
Closed AccountFeb 6, 2008
I can't customize KDE4 nearly as much as i can customize the current gnome.KDE4 is a huge dissapointment. They shouldn't have released it this early.
eternicodeFeb 8, 2008
I've been using KDE4 for just under a month now, and I would have to agree with Sklasko. The minimum scale factor for most of the plasmoids is still too big for my taste. And the kicker bar is far too large for not being manipulatable; I ended up simply getting rid of it. I've also hidden the desktop icons (something I was experimenting with even before KDE4).Sklasko may be a little harsh in his criticism (It's a joke? No, It's .0.1 software.), his points are not totally invalid.Don't start down the fanboy path.
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