huffingtonpost.com— Jimmy Carter: "Iraq Invasion...One Of The Greatest Blunders That American Presidents Have Ever Made"...More in the transcript
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ugh, way too many International Relations retards on this forum. Yes we put the Shah in power, it was in our interest. This is called "realism." It's what keeps your soggy behind in front of your computer eating cheetos. Eisenhower did what was in the best interest of the United States. This is a constitutional obligation, "to protect the citizens from threats both foreign and domestic." I could go all night, but i'll spare you. You really want to talk about Jimmy Carter's failures, look at north korea, Esperanto and the metric system. Those worked out well for us didn't they? Oh wait....quit googling for talking points, it's painfully obvious. You are not an expert on international relations because you ate at IHOP on Saturday morning.
This all coming from a peanut farmer... This guy is a complete idiot and one of the worst president's in U.S. history. you might as well ask my anus what it thinks of Iraq and you'll get a more intelligent reponse then this @$$
Whether or not Carter was a bumbling idiot, is not the argument.... Bush has ultimately destroyed any legitimacy we have in the middle east for decades to come. We are no longer favored amongst the rest of the world. This may not concern most domesticated Americans, but for those who do business and vacation over sea will pay for his stupidity.Ah the ingorance of doublethink.
The majority of the post I see here are basically saying - US (and/or Britain) has caused all the ills in the Middle East. Don't any of you have a LITTLE blame to spread around the Middle Eastern Country's or their leaders? And don't give me that sh!t that I'm questioning your patriotism. I'm seriously asking if any liberal can find ANY fault with anyone other than the free democracies in the US and Great Britain? You all seem to just be taught to reflexively blame your own country (republican administrations at least) or our only true allies, Great Britain.Also, if you didn't want to go into Iraq in the 1st place - too f-in bad. We're there. Get over it. It happens in a democracy that you don't always get your way. Working to undermine our every move there after is not a just cause. But it is certainly popular these days.
Wow got a really deep thinker here...It's not in our best interests to overthrow functioning democracies and install brutal dictators. Iran was a secular, functioning Democracy until the overthrow of Mossadeq. It was not in our interest for Iran to become what it is today because of our actions in the 50's (which actually was a British operation with the support of the US CIA under Truman, not Eisenhower). It was done purely to protect the interests of oil companies not our national interest. Washington warned against foreign entanglements--and there is nothing in the constitution that says we have a right to overthrow a sovereign government. .
Closed AccountNov 29, 2006
So Jimmy Carter is the secret identity of Captain Obvious? Who'd a thunk.
redrevoltNov 30, 2006
ugh, way too many International Relations retards on this forum. Yes we put the Shah in power, it was in our interest. This is called "realism." It's what keeps your soggy behind in front of your computer eating cheetos. Eisenhower did what was in the best interest of the United States. This is a constitutional obligation, "to protect the citizens from threats both foreign and domestic." I could go all night, but i'll spare you. You really want to talk about Jimmy Carter's failures, look at north korea, Esperanto and the metric system. Those worked out well for us didn't they? Oh wait....quit googling for talking points, it's painfully obvious. You are not an expert on international relations because you ate at IHOP on Saturday morning.
drsnooksNov 30, 2006
Another funny thing, I'm British, and I grew up with terrorism as a normal part of life, via the IRA - <a class="user" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Troubles.">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Troubles.</a> This is why you won't find bins (trans: garbage cans) at any English train station, because people used to put bombs in them. Over the many years of "The Troubles", we tried just about every approach you can think of :Harsh crackdowns - <a class="user" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bloody_Sunday_(1972)">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bloody_Sunday_(1972)</a> Didn't work, just made things worse by giving the nationalists a cause to rally round and an injustice to citeLocking people up without charge - <a class="user" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Demetrius">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Demetrius</a>Ditto.Fighting back "whenever, wherever" - <a class="user" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shoot-to-kill_policy_in_Northern_Ireland">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shoot-to-kill_policy_in_Northern_Ireland</a>DittoEncouraging paramilitary groups who were on "our side" - <a class="user" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troubles#Collusion_-_British_Army_and_loyalist_paramilitaries">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troubles#Collusion_-_British_Army_and_loyalist_paramilitaries</a>Ditto. Just destroyed any vestiges of credibility that the authorities had, and resulted in a free-for-all bloodbath.So what *did* work? Getting people to talk to each other - <a class="user" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northern_Ireland_peace_process.">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northern_Ireland_peace_process.</a> (sigh) Sorry to be a wishy-washy liberal leftie commie pinko lunatic, but in the end, it's the only thing that works. An eye for an eye just makes the whole world blind.
neolarthytepNov 30, 2006
This all coming from a peanut farmer... This guy is a complete idiot and one of the worst president's in U.S. history. you might as well ask my anus what it thinks of Iraq and you'll get a more intelligent reponse then this @$$
bushliedNov 30, 2006
Whether or not Carter was a bumbling idiot, is not the argument.... Bush has ultimately destroyed any legitimacy we have in the middle east for decades to come. We are no longer favored amongst the rest of the world. This may not concern most domesticated Americans, but for those who do business and vacation over sea will pay for his stupidity.Ah the ingorance of doublethink.
lastvisibledogNov 30, 2006
This from the worst president in the history of our country. Carter is a senile idiot and was a terrible president.
samcatluNov 30, 2006
The majority of the post I see here are basically saying - US (and/or Britain) has caused all the ills in the Middle East. Don't any of you have a LITTLE blame to spread around the Middle Eastern Country's or their leaders? And don't give me that sh!t that I'm questioning your patriotism. I'm seriously asking if any liberal can find ANY fault with anyone other than the free democracies in the US and Great Britain? You all seem to just be taught to reflexively blame your own country (republican administrations at least) or our only true allies, Great Britain.Also, if you didn't want to go into Iraq in the 1st place - too f-in bad. We're there. Get over it. It happens in a democracy that you don't always get your way. Working to undermine our every move there after is not a just cause. But it is certainly popular these days.
rabiddogmaNov 30, 2006
Wow got a really deep thinker here...It's not in our best interests to overthrow functioning democracies and install brutal dictators. Iran was a secular, functioning Democracy until the overthrow of Mossadeq. It was not in our interest for Iran to become what it is today because of our actions in the 50's (which actually was a British operation with the support of the US CIA under Truman, not Eisenhower). It was done purely to protect the interests of oil companies not our national interest. Washington warned against foreign entanglements--and there is nothing in the constitution that says we have a right to overthrow a sovereign government. .
rabiddogmaNov 30, 2006
I bet your anus could give a more intelligent answer than Bush.
mullingDec 3, 2006
Uh, farmers are the backbone of this country assh**e. Carter was also a decorated veteran. Are you going to slander veterans next?