Uh, the Jews who were expelled from their homes in 1948 should get them back, or get reparations, et al. Just like Palestinians should.Do not accuse me of a one-sidedness that I don't have.
Fake WMD anyone? This sounds like right-wing government propaganda. Where is the proof? But I'll bet this proofless accusation will be used as partial evidence to attack Syria &/or Iran at a later date. If not, then its part of a larger propaganda campaign to convince the public that attacking them is necessary (create a buzz).FYI: If these supposed bunkers had that much nuclear material were indeed bombed & set ablaze as claimed, then it would be easy for many countries to be able to detect the nuclear material that was sent up into the atmosphere & blown around. Of course it would have to be independently verified by the scientific community & not just Israel or the US making-up fake intel again. This is no different than all of that fake WMD intel evidence that the US used to invade & occupy Iraq. Wake up people, don't be fooled again.
"I can become French if I marry a French citizen, or I immigrate to France." You may become a citizen of France that way, but I doubt that any French people would accept you as one of them. Similarly, the Jews have never been accepted as equals in most countries where they have lived. Example: Russian Jews, whose ancestors have lived there for centuries, are not considered to be ethnic Russians. Under the Soviet regime, their internal id's stated "Jewish" as their "nationality", i. e. ethnicity. I am talking about ethnicity here, not citizenship or race. I have discovered that for most Americans this concept is difficult to grasp, because in the US descendants of immigrants typically lose their ethnic identity within a few generations. By the way, you cannot become a citizen of Kuwait, no matter what you do.If the majority of Inuits wish to form their own country, they should be allowed to do so. This is called the right of self-determination, and is recognized by the UN. Same deal with the Kurds, which are the largest ethnic group in the world without a country of their own. This is not at all unprecedented. During the past 15 years Czechs and Slovaks split up to form separate countries, Eritrea split off from Ethiopia, and Kosovo de facto become independent from Serbia. This happens often enough with varying amount of bloodshed."they drove away the original inhabitants, the Philistines and the Canaanites." First, the Philistines were not native to the area, but were themselves invaders. They are called "sea people" in the bible, and are believed to be the remnants of the Minoan civilization of Crete. Second, if any Canaanites were still around and expressed a desire to reestablish their homeland, then maybe you would have something there. Otherwise you point is moot.": you were living in a land that you have occupied for over a 1000 years. Then Europeans come, kick you out, and declare that your land is now their country." Wrong. At the end of the 19th century present-day Israel was a backward sparsely-populated Ottoman province. Then Jews started *buying* up land, and immigrating there in significant numbers. This created an economic boom, which also attracted Arabs to the area. There are Arab communities who have lived there for centuries, just as there are ancient Jewish communities, who never left Israel. However, the ancestors of a vast majority of Arabs calling themselves Palestinians migrated there in the beginning of the 20th century. Did you know that a "Palestinian" is defined by the UN as a person whose ancestors have lived in Palestine for at least TWO years before 1948? 2 != 1000. Not to mention that most Palestinian refugees left their homes in 1948 without ever seeing an Israeli soldier, because they were told to get out of the way by the invading armies of Syria, Lebanon, Jordan, Egypt, and Iraq. If they did not attack, nobody would have been kicked out. The Palestinian Arabs would have had a state, and those that ended up on the Israeli side would have lived in Israel, just as they had lived in British mandate Palestine, or in the Ottoman empire, except with many more rights. This is how over a million of Israeli Arabs live today, with full citizenship rights, Arab political parties, Arab parliament members, and an Arab cabinet minister."agreeing to the UN proposal THEN would have looked like the big mistake." So, in your opinion, trying to commit genocide did not look like a mistake? Because this is exactly what the Arabs tried to do after rejecting the UN proposal. Their goal was literally to "drive the Jews into the sea" and divide the land among the neighboring Arab countries. Does the lack of the 20/20 hindsight justify that?Speaking of agreeing, have you heard of the Faisal-Weizmann agreement of 1919(!), that outlined a future Jewish state alongside a unified Arab state? <a class="user" href="http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/History/faisaltext.html">http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/History/faisaltext.html</a>As you can see, some Arabs were fine with creating a Jewish state almost 20 years before it was actually created. Too bad they got screwed by the British, and never got their own unified state.
Nobody in this equation follows the teachings of their religion. If they did, the middle east with its wealth of oil would be heaven on earth, instead they are killing each other.
Was Israel even around 40 years ago? Wasnt it still Palestine then? Wasnt it about 40 years ago Palestinians ran from Israeli warplanes and tanks and soldiers who forcibly removed them from their homes?Think about what you say before you say "40 years"
wootupSep 17, 2007
Uh, the Jews who were expelled from their homes in 1948 should get them back, or get reparations, et al. Just like Palestinians should.Do not accuse me of a one-sidedness that I don't have.
anonym41414Sep 17, 2007
I really like how you managed not to see the words in all caps.
Closed AccountSep 17, 2007
Fake WMD anyone? This sounds like right-wing government propaganda. Where is the proof? But I'll bet this proofless accusation will be used as partial evidence to attack Syria &/or Iran at a later date. If not, then its part of a larger propaganda campaign to convince the public that attacking them is necessary (create a buzz).FYI: If these supposed bunkers had that much nuclear material were indeed bombed & set ablaze as claimed, then it would be easy for many countries to be able to detect the nuclear material that was sent up into the atmosphere & blown around. Of course it would have to be independently verified by the scientific community & not just Israel or the US making-up fake intel again. This is no different than all of that fake WMD intel evidence that the US used to invade & occupy Iraq. Wake up people, don't be fooled again.
vaultSep 18, 2007
The issue isn't understanding why Syria wants nuclear weapons- that much is pretty obvious...the issue is stopping them from getting them.
vaultSep 18, 2007
Yes, a country with a s**tload of oil run by religious fanatics really needs a nuclear reactor for peaceful purposes.You are a naive moron.
wpi97Sep 18, 2007
"I can become French if I marry a French citizen, or I immigrate to France." You may become a citizen of France that way, but I doubt that any French people would accept you as one of them. Similarly, the Jews have never been accepted as equals in most countries where they have lived. Example: Russian Jews, whose ancestors have lived there for centuries, are not considered to be ethnic Russians. Under the Soviet regime, their internal id's stated "Jewish" as their "nationality", i. e. ethnicity. I am talking about ethnicity here, not citizenship or race. I have discovered that for most Americans this concept is difficult to grasp, because in the US descendants of immigrants typically lose their ethnic identity within a few generations. By the way, you cannot become a citizen of Kuwait, no matter what you do.If the majority of Inuits wish to form their own country, they should be allowed to do so. This is called the right of self-determination, and is recognized by the UN. Same deal with the Kurds, which are the largest ethnic group in the world without a country of their own. This is not at all unprecedented. During the past 15 years Czechs and Slovaks split up to form separate countries, Eritrea split off from Ethiopia, and Kosovo de facto become independent from Serbia. This happens often enough with varying amount of bloodshed."they drove away the original inhabitants, the Philistines and the Canaanites." First, the Philistines were not native to the area, but were themselves invaders. They are called "sea people" in the bible, and are believed to be the remnants of the Minoan civilization of Crete. Second, if any Canaanites were still around and expressed a desire to reestablish their homeland, then maybe you would have something there. Otherwise you point is moot.": you were living in a land that you have occupied for over a 1000 years. Then Europeans come, kick you out, and declare that your land is now their country." Wrong. At the end of the 19th century present-day Israel was a backward sparsely-populated Ottoman province. Then Jews started *buying* up land, and immigrating there in significant numbers. This created an economic boom, which also attracted Arabs to the area. There are Arab communities who have lived there for centuries, just as there are ancient Jewish communities, who never left Israel. However, the ancestors of a vast majority of Arabs calling themselves Palestinians migrated there in the beginning of the 20th century. Did you know that a "Palestinian" is defined by the UN as a person whose ancestors have lived in Palestine for at least TWO years before 1948? 2 != 1000. Not to mention that most Palestinian refugees left their homes in 1948 without ever seeing an Israeli soldier, because they were told to get out of the way by the invading armies of Syria, Lebanon, Jordan, Egypt, and Iraq. If they did not attack, nobody would have been kicked out. The Palestinian Arabs would have had a state, and those that ended up on the Israeli side would have lived in Israel, just as they had lived in British mandate Palestine, or in the Ottoman empire, except with many more rights. This is how over a million of Israeli Arabs live today, with full citizenship rights, Arab political parties, Arab parliament members, and an Arab cabinet minister."agreeing to the UN proposal THEN would have looked like the big mistake." So, in your opinion, trying to commit genocide did not look like a mistake? Because this is exactly what the Arabs tried to do after rejecting the UN proposal. Their goal was literally to "drive the Jews into the sea" and divide the land among the neighboring Arab countries. Does the lack of the 20/20 hindsight justify that?Speaking of agreeing, have you heard of the Faisal-Weizmann agreement of 1919(!), that outlined a future Jewish state alongside a unified Arab state? <a class="user" href="http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/History/faisaltext.html">http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/History/faisaltext.html</a>As you can see, some Arabs were fine with creating a Jewish state almost 20 years before it was actually created. Too bad they got screwed by the British, and never got their own unified state.
PaulTheBookGuySep 21, 2007
Nobody in this equation follows the teachings of their religion. If they did, the middle east with its wealth of oil would be heaven on earth, instead they are killing each other.
PaulTheBookGuySep 21, 2007
Was Israel even around 40 years ago? Wasnt it still Palestine then? Wasnt it about 40 years ago Palestinians ran from Israeli warplanes and tanks and soldiers who forcibly removed them from their homes?Think about what you say before you say "40 years"
Closed AccountDec 4, 2007
Thanks, very informative topic.. if you need more relative info, please visit this sites:<a class="user" href="http://www.buynewmeds.com">http://www.buynewmeds.com</a><a class="user" href="http://www.order-pharmacy.com">http://www.order-pharmacy.com</a><a class="user" href="http://www.popular-meds.com">http://www.popular-meds.com</a><a class="user" href="http://www.love-meds.com">http://www.love-meds.com</a><a class="user" href="http://www.love-pills.net">http://www.love-pills.net</a><a class="user" href="http://www.buy-pharmacy.info">http://www.buy-pharmacy.info</a><a class="user" href="http://www.cvs-pharmacy.biz">http://www.cvs-pharmacy.biz</a><a class="user" href="http://www.love-pharmacy.org">http://www.love-pharmacy.org</a><a class="user" href="http://www.health-pharmacy.org">http://www.health-pharmacy.org</a><a class="user" href="http://www.viagra-pills.info">http://www.viagra-pills.info</a>
pinok45Mar 5, 2008
Hi gays, very interesting topic. Thanks so much<a class="user" href="http://www.youpharmaguide.biz/">http://www.youpharmaguide.biz/</a><a class="user" href="http://www.youpharmaguide.biz/pharmacy/viagra.html">http://www.youpharmaguide.biz/pharmacy/viagra.html</a><a class="user" href="http://www.youpharmaguide.biz/pharmacy/cialis.html">http://www.youpharmaguide.biz/pharmacy/cialis.html</a><a class="user" href="http://www.youpharmaguide.biz/pharmacy/viagra_soft_tabs.html">http://www.youpharmaguide.biz/pharmacy/viagra_soft ...</a><a class="user" href="http://www.youpharmaguide.biz/pharmacy/cialis_soft_tabs.html">http://www.youpharmaguide.biz/pharmacy/cialis_soft ...</a>
ejevichechkinFeb 27, 2009
<a class="user" href="http://www.canadian-online-medicine.com/medgroup/pets.html">http://www.canadian-online-medicine.com/medgroup/p ...</a><a class="user" href="http://www.canadian-online-medicine.com/pills_online/manhood_enhancer.html">http://www.canadian-online-medicine.com/pills_onli ...</a><a class="user" href="http://www.canadian-online-medicine.com/pills_online/female_enhancement/women_s_intimacy_enhancer_cream.html">http://www.canadian-online-medicine.com/pills_onli ...</a><a class="user" href="http://canadian-online-medicine.com/pills_online/french_red_wine.html">http://canadian-online-medicine.com/pills_online/f ...</a><a class="user" href="http://canadian-online-medicine.com/pills_online/hip__amp;_joint_support_dogs.html">http://canadian-online-medicine.com/pills_online/h ...</a><a class="user" href="http://canadian-online-medicine.com/pills_online/blood_pressure_cholesterol/isoptin.html">http://canadian-online-medicine.com/pills_online/b ...</a><a class="user" href="http://canadian-online-medicine.com/pills_online/cozaar.html">http://canadian-online-medicine.com/pills_online/c ...</a>